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Old Apr 7, 2011, 12:24 AM   #11
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If you go to OldVersion.com (just Google it) , they have a long list of every earlier version of Firefox & you can download whichever one you want.
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Old Apr 7, 2011, 3:33 AM   #12
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McAfee site advisor that comes with McAfee Anti-virus warns you of unsafe sites that run spyware and maleware scripts. Microsoft IE browser allows you to report a site that you have reason to believe is behaving in an unacceptable manner. An MVPS hosts file helps to keep your browser from being redirected to unsafe sites and an enabled firewall helps to keep intruders out.

Anti-virus/internet protection programs that list and advise you of your on-board vulnerabilities and recommend you to update, remove or reconfigure them is worth having as well.

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Old Apr 7, 2011, 11:32 AM   #13
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Herb - many thanks for the reference - I'll look into it shortly. As an aside, WHY do Firefox have so many QC issues? I've had terrible trouble with it over the years.

On anti-malware software, I use Bullguard and have done for several years. I used every now and again to uninstall Bullguard and scan my computer with other good packages to ensure it was finding everything it should and I was never able to fault it. So now I just rely on it, and I can truthfully say I have NEVER had any malware on my computer since. I have found it on external drives that I also use on other people's computers, but even there Bullguard alerts me to them.

In the past I have used Norton, McAfee and others, and none has come close to the reliable and low-profile performance of Bullguard.
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Old Apr 7, 2011, 6:55 PM   #14
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peterbj7 -

I'm curious about your mention of Firefox QC issues - that's a new one on me - what is it/are they? Does QC stand for Quality Control or something?
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Old Apr 7, 2011, 7:10 PM   #15
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Yes it does. Another version is "QA" - "quality assurance", though that means something slightly different. I've had repeated problems with Firefox. With Vista it often just wouldn't start, which became quite a bore. That's when I first installed Chrome, which has to date never hiccuped. Never had a problem with XP. I've not had a problem recently with 7 either, except after I changed (I won't call it "upgraded") to Firefox 4.0. That version repeatedly and unpredictably (to me) hangs, and there's nothing I can do about it other than kill it. Now I've gone back to 3.5.2 it works just fine.
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Old Apr 7, 2011, 7:38 PM   #16
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I'd make sure your video driver is up to date, as Firefox 4 uses hardware assisted rendering now (GPU acceleration is used for rendering of some content). So, a buggy video driver could cause stability issues with it. I'd probably go directly to the chipset manufacturer to get them (AMD, Nvdia, etc.), versus relying on Windows updates to give you the latest version.

If you're running an Nvidia based card, go here:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

For ATI cards, go here:

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

For Intel graphics chipsets, go here:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/

If it's hanging on you after updating to the latest driver for your video card, it could also be a Firefox add-on problem of some kind, and I'd make sure all of your browser plugins are up to date (flash player, acrobat reader, etc.). Here's a tool you can check them with:

https://browsercheck.qualys.com/

I'd also disable any of them you don't need, as many can have a big impact on browser performance. Start up time can also be impacted. There have been a number of stories published about that in the few days. Mozilla says that on average, each add-on will slow down startup time by around 10% (so 10 add-ons will double startup time). Some are much worse than others, and they've published a list of some of the popular add-ons, sorted by how long their startup time is here:

http://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/performance/

If they're already up to date and you've disabled the ones you don't use and still have issues, you may want to try disabling them and enabling them one at a time to find any culprit.

BTW, here's a guide on making FF 4 look and behave more like the FF 3.6:

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/f...-4-taming.html
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When I ran the update, FF did a compatibility check on the add-ons when I restarted. Since I did the update from the browser, the install kept my set up pretty much intact, so there wasn't much I needed to do to get it to run and look like the 3.6 version.

peterbj7: If you are running windows 7, how is it that you were unable to restore to the earlier version of FF? Though I haven't used it yet, the context menu has this option. I would be disappointed to find it doesn't work.

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I'd still check your plugins (as even though Firefox is usually pretty good about updating any extensions located in it's own repos at https://addons.mozilla.org , it's been my experience that you can be out of date on the plugins like Acrobat Reader, Shockwave Flash Player, Java and others without any warnings from Firefox, even though the plugins may have newer versions out that patch serious security vulnerabilities and improve stability). A lot depends on how you've got those products configured for how they check for updates.

This is the tool I normally use for checking to make sure browser related plugins are up to date:

https://browsercheck.qualys.com/

As for older versions of FF, you can get them here:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Once you click on a folder for a specific version, you can click on a folder for your operating system (Windows, Linux, etc.) and find the one specific to your language. For example, here's where you'll find the Windows installer for Firefox 3.6.16 for US English:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/re...6/win32/en-US/

But, you probably need to be careful that you've got a good backup first if you decide to revert to older releases for any unsolvable issues, as sometimes you can run into profile corruption problems going from a new major release back to an older release. Now, I went from FF 4 Beta 12 back to one of the FF 3.6 releases without any problems, then after FF 4.0 final was released, I installed it. But, in some cases you can run into quirks.
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Thanks. Normally I'd be interested to plough through all that stuff, but right now I just want software that works. 3.5.2 works just fine and did before, so I'm happy.
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3,5.2, huh? Well, keep in mind that there have been a lot of vulnerabilities patched since then, with a number of them at the critical level. That's one reason it can be a good idea to update as newer versions come out (since once vulnerabilities have been published, criminals try to take advantage of them):

See the vulnerabilites for 3.5 releases here:

http://www.mozilla.org/security/know...firefox35.html

More have been found and patched in later releases. Here are vulnerabilities that have been published for FF 3.6:

http://www.mozilla.org/security/know...firefox36.html
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