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Old Jun 29, 2011, 2:09 PM   #1
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Hi, Thinking of spending on a NEC Multisync EA261WM does anyone have any views on this monitor please?
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Hi, Thinking of spending on a NEC Multisync EA261WM does anyone have any views on this monitor please?
Thanks
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Hi Russ,

Here's what I don't like about it...

1. it uses a "TN" tft LCD panel; a better quality image editing and viewing monitor will use either an "IPS" tft LCD panel or a "PVA" tft LCD panel. TN's are usually found in budget gaming and entertainment monitors.

About TFT LCD panels....
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles...chnologies.htm

The problem with TN panels is that at off angles (ex: the angle between your eye looking at the centre point and the left or right edge of the screen) will show a noticeable in gamma or color. Here's some examples:

TN tft panel
(per TFT Central BenQ XL2410T review http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm )
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/b...ing_angles.jpg

IPS tft panel
(per TFT Central NEC EA232w review http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm )
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/n...ing_angles.jpg


2. the size (25.5 inches) in conjunction with the TN panel - the larger the panel the further away you have to sit to minimize the gamma/color shift due the TN panel

3. could be bad or good - the resolution of 1920x1200 will provide a large pixel size that if you sit close will possibly be noticeable, or.... will provide a larger font for better readability if there are eyesight issues. Most font size issues are better handled by the OS settings.

****************

This monitor has a sRGB gamut which works great for most people. Almost all off site printing services request that images be supplied in the sRGB color space and online web sites such as Smugmug, Flickr, Zenfolio, etc ask for sRGB images only.

If you are using Photoshop or Lightroom and have your own high end multi-ink printer, and prefer to work in the AdobeRGB space either with JPEG's captured in camera with the AdobeRGB setting or via RAW files extracted to the AdobeRGB space, it may be better to consider a "wide gamut" monitor such as the NEC PA241w or PA271w, Dell's U2410, the new ASUS PA246Q, or others.

FYI... Lightroom's native working space is ProPhotoRGB and in the current version this cannot be changed.

Gamut.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colorspace.png


I'm not sure of your rationale for wanting a monitor of this size. There is a trend to using smaller dual monitors where with certain editing software, you use one monitor for viewing the image and the other for holding tools and tool menus. This can provide effectively more working space for less $$$ than a single large monitor.

Current IPS tft panel sRGB monitors much desired by photo hobbyists are...

*Dell U2211H*
... 21.5" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*Dell U2311H*
... 23" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*HP ZR22w*
... 21.5" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*NEC EA231WMi*
... 23" 1920x1080
... CCFL back light
... possibly true 8bit


*NEC EA232WMi*
... 23" 1920x1080
... W-LED back light
... 6bit + A-FRC


*Viewsonic VP2365WB*

... 23" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*HP ZR24w*
... 24" 1920x1200
... true 8bit


The next generation of TFT panels are just around the corner and it appears that they are all moving to a 16:9 ratio 1920x1080 resolution.

Here's some review sites you can browse....

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/reviews.php

.

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Hi Russ,

Here's what I don't like about it...

1. it uses a "TN" tft LCD panel; a better quality image editing and viewing monitor will use either an "IPS" tft LCD panel or a "PVA" tft LCD panel. TN's are usually found in budget gaming and entertainment monitors.

About TFT LCD panels....
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles...chnologies.htm

The problem with TN panels is that at off angles (ex: the angle between your eye looking at the centre point and the left or right edge of the screen) will show a noticeable in gamma or color. Here's some examples:

TN tft panel
(per TFT Central BenQ XL2410T review http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm )
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/b...ing_angles.jpg

IPS tft panel
(per TFT Central NEC EA232w review http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm )
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/n...ing_angles.jpg


2. the size (25.5 inches) in conjunction with the TN panel - the larger the panel the further away you have to sit to minimize the gamma/color shift due the TN panel

3. could be bad or good - the resolution of 1920x1200 will provide a large pixel size that if you sit close will possibly be noticeable, or.... will provide a larger font for better readability if there are eyesight issues. Most font size issues are better handled by the OS settings.

****************

This monitor has a sRGB gamut which works great for most people. Almost all off site printing services request that images be supplied in the sRGB color space and online web sites such as Smugmug, Flickr, Zenfolio, etc ask for sRGB images only.

If you are using Photoshop or Lightroom and have your own high end multi-ink printer, and prefer to work in the AdobeRGB space either with JPEG's captured in camera with the AdobeRGB setting or via RAW files extracted to the AdobeRGB space, it may be better to consider a "wide gamut" monitor such as the NEC PA241w or PA271w, Dell's U2410, the new ASUS PA246Q, or others.

FYI... Lightroom's native working space is ProPhotoRGB and in the current version this cannot be changed.

Gamut.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colorspace.png


I'm not sure of your rationale for wanting a monitor of this size. There is a trend to using smaller dual monitors where with certain editing software, you use one monitor for viewing the image and the other for holding tools and tool menus. This can provide effectively more working space for less $$$ than a single large monitor.

Current IPS tft panel sRGB monitors much desired by photo hobbyists are...

*Dell U2211H*
... 21.5" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*Dell U2311H*
... 23" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*HP ZR22w*
... 21.5" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*NEC EA231WMi*
... 23" 1920x1080
... CCFL back light
... possibly true 8bit


*NEC EA232WMi*
... 23" 1920x1080
... W-LED back light
... 6bit + A-FRC


*Viewsonic VP2365WB*

... 23" 1920x1080
... 6bit + A-FRC


*HP ZR24w*
... 24" 1920x1200
... true 8bit


The next generation of TFT panels are just around the corner and it appears that they are all moving to a 16:9 ratio 1920x1080 resolution.

Here's some review sites you can browse....

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/reviews.php

.
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