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Old Sep 14, 2004, 10:48 AM   #1
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I am looking into dye-sub printers. I have heard good things about the hiti's, but very little on the Mitsubishi's. I would like 8x10 capability. Has anyone had experience with there line?
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I own a Mitsubishi 3020DU dye sub.It does both 8x10 and 8x12.I have used the 800W also.I also own a Hiti 630PS and a Kodak 8500 dye sub.The 3020DU is built very solid and prints are on a par with the 8500.The 8x12 print size is a big benefit though.It allows me to put 4 6x4 prints on a sheet,instead of the 3 that fit on an 8x10.The price for an 8x10 on the 3020 runs $1.40,8x12 runs $1.60.An 8x10 on my 8500 runs $1.60.Mitsubishi has profiles for both glossy and matte printing.A free download.Glossy works best,like on all dye subs.Mitsubishi has been building dye subs for years,and build the print engines for a few of the competitions printers.
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How do the prints from the Mitshubi compare with the Hiti. I know you can't get the print size from the Hiti, but how is the quality comparison?
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I like the Olympus P-440 for 8x10s (about $1.60/page). I also own a Hi-Ti 630PS for 4x6s ($0.40/page). The quality on both is outstanding and both can be run standalone (in fact I have never connected either to my computers).



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Old Sep 16, 2004, 10:15 AM   #5
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The prints are pretty equal between the 3 printers.The paper is ,in my opinion,is a better quality than the Hiti uses.It is very tough paper.The Oly P440 does nice prints also.It is not as well built as the Mitsubishi,and the ability to do 8x12 sized prints made the price difference worth it! It all comes down to how you will use the printer.Also many digital cameras are 3x2,which is what an 8x12 print would be.By the way,my costs for a 4x6 with my Hiti is 33 cents.It might be 40 cents with the Mitsubishi 4)4x6 per 8x12,but the Mitsu is faster for multiple prints.The Mitsu,at least mine,does not have the bleeding red problem many dye subs have.By the way,I have found all these makers will send sample prints.I have samples from 9 dye sub printers.
I forgot to add,I have used printers "stand alone" but prefer to use editing programs,such as Qimage and PhotoShop,to make the best print possible.I have my own darkroom for film as well.I like having control over my work!A laptop works great on the road.
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Thanks for the feedback. I am still trying to decide between the three, the Kodak 8500, Mitsubishi CP-3020DU and the Hi-Ti (either 730ps or 640). My ultimate goal is to get the best picture quality. The size difference is obviously a factor, but is the quality really the same?
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Wendy,



I am curious, why the Kodak 8500 over the Olympus P-440?



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Old Sep 23, 2004, 12:50 PM   #8
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While I do not own the Hiti 730,I do own a Hiti,along with the 8500 and 3020DU.I do know there are bleeding red problems with many dye subs.I have seen complaints from Oly,Kodak and Hiti on this bleeding.I have not seen this with my Kodak 8500,nor my Mitsubishi 3020DU.I would compare these printers to automobiles.The Hiti and the Olympus P440 are Chevrolet Cavaliers,they will do what they are designed to do.The Kodak and the Mitsubishi are Buick Park Avenues,they do the job,and are built to last! I never buy Cavaliers,but many people like them!
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I haven't heard much about the Olympus -440. How did you decide on this one over the others?
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Wendy,

I have been using a HiTi 630PS for about a year. I like it a lot, but wanted a stand alone printer that could do 8x10s. When the P-440 came out I waited for "Steve's" to do a review:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_...mpus_p440.html

It was good and so was the price (about $450 at Amazon.com).

I have no problem with quality or "Bleeding". It has been just great!

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