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Old Jun 2, 2010, 2:39 PM   #11
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If I may, I tried to keep the the "lighting" to look as true to the scenery as possible... Martin, I noticed you lighted the picture quite a lot. Do my pictures simply look too dark? Just wondering. Also, many thanks for your links. Ned
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Many thanks, Ordo, for your very helpful links!

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Old Jun 2, 2010, 3:05 PM   #13
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The original is a little dark for my taste but it doesn't need to be lightened as much as I did but that's the lowest setting on my HDR program which is primarily designed to adjust the brightness - the sharpening is a side-effect. Only you can know what it really looked like when you were there and so make a judgement about what looks really natural but I suspect you could see more with your eyes than the original picture is showing so some lightening of the darker areas and some recovery of the highlights in bits like the silver birch bark and the boards on the bridge should be closer to what it was really like.

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Old Jun 2, 2010, 3:08 PM   #14
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Yes, definitely... could see more with my eyes than what is in picture. I know the photo I took needs some lightening, but then there are places where the sun is shinning... I didn't use a polarizing filter today, so I still learning how to use PSE8 so that the sunny portions don't look like they are starting to glow... Lots to learn, thanks for your helpful cc
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Martin, here's another try... same scene (sorry, don't mean to bore you to death with trees)... taken today. Again, I use this subject as I live around lakes and forest, I want to use PSE8 so I can "deal" with Finnish nature and not upload photos that lack sharpness and contrast. I appreciate any criticism that you or anyone else might have.

The Original is on the left, my post-processed version on the right. I can see pluses and minuses about both... just wish I knew how to get what I want... for example, on the right, the colour looks to pinkish..., whereas the colour of the boards on the left are correct. This is a tough subject to shoot, in my opinion.

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Can you describe exactly what you want it to look like?

The problem here is that you've reduced the green channel somehow - maybe by adjusting the white-balance incorrectly. The opposite of Green in RGB is Blue+Red = Magenta(pink) so reducing Green is the same as boosting Magenta so the whites turn pink.
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I just want the left to look sharper, a touch of contrast on cloudy day, and the best detail possible. In the second photo above, I did use "auto levels". Perhaps that wass my mistake, but it just seemed to make the sharpness and contrast better... but perhaps it screwed up the colours.
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How about this version? I use Paintshop Pro so the settings might have different names for you.

Step 1. Levels adjustment (RGB together so there is no colour shift. (Input:0/1.2/255, Output:0/255 so no clipping, just lightens the midtones a bit)
Step 2. Unsharp mask (radius 1, strength 100, clipping 5)

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Wow, Martin, many kind thanks for your help (and patience!!!) This is great, and having some numbers as guide is very helpful. Ned
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You can also try (saving the originals of course) the double sharpening trick which you will find here:

Image resizing for the web & mail

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In addition to moiré artifacts, a resized image can also become significantly less sharp. Interpolation algorithms which preserve the best sharpness are more susceptible to moiré, whereas those which avoid moiré typically produce a softer result. This is unfortunately an unavoidable trade-off in resizing.
One of the best ways to combat this is to apply a follow-up unsharp mask after resizing an image even if the original had already been sharpened.

Then the tutorial recommends sharpening the resized pick using Amount: 300-400 / Radius: 0.1-0.2 or 0.3.
Anyway the last versions from Martin and yourself have very much improved. A last commente: leaves, bushes, forests are very, verrrry tricky!
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