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Old Aug 8, 2011, 12:02 PM   #1
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Am a total newbie to video editing. I purchased a Sony HD Handycam and the PBM Software that came with it seems adequate, but limited. I've been reading mixed reviews on the big names such as Adobe, Corel, etc. I downloaded the trial version of Corel Video Studio Pro, but it seems a bit complicated. I discovered MS Movie Maker to be fairly intuitive to use.

My needs are fairly basic: combine clips, trim uneeded sections, and add a music track (mostly to cover up undesireable background noise). End use would be home movies in HD.

I would surely appreciate some feedback and recommendations based on user experience on what would be a suitable introduction to this area.

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In a commercial product for Windows, I'd probably look at the Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum Production Suite (which includes Sony's Sound Forge Audio Studio Software, too) for $124.95. Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum seems to be well liked when I see discussions about video editing comparing products.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiopp

See some of the differences between the Sony Vegas offerings here:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...udiopp/compare

They have trial versions you can download to see how they work for you.

If you want to give Dual Booting a Linux distribution a try, then I'd look at these video editing products (free):

Kdenlive:
http://www.kdenlive.org/

OpenShot:
http://www.openshot.org

I'm using SimplyMepis 11 (a free Linux distribution using a Debian Lenny base) on my wife's laptop right this minute, and it's got Kdenlive preinstalled. Here's a brief review of Mepis 11:

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?is...110530#feature

I don't even bother to keep Windows installed on her laptop anymore (a Dell Inspiron 1720 with an Intel Core 2 Duo in it). The last time I upgraded her (from Mepis 8.5 to Mepis 11), I just deleted her Windows installation and let Mepis have the entire hard drive versus keeping it setup in a dual boot config, since Windows (Vista in her case) was just wasting space (she never used it, since applications available for Mepis do everything she needs). It's also got VLC preinstalled for easy playback of most video formats.

If you want to give it a try, just use the download links in this press release. If you have 4GB or more, I'd use the 64 bit download. If you have less than 4GB, I'd go with the 32 bit download:

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06664

Here's a free tool you can use to burn the .iso to DVD (the Mepis 11 .iso is approx. 1.5GB, so it will require a DVD versus CD). After you install isorecorder, when you "right click" on the .iso file for a linux distro from within Windows Explorer, you'll see a new menu choice to "Copy Image to CD/DVD" you can use. Then, after it finishes burning to a blank DVD, just reboot into the DVD to see if you like it and if it works OK with your hardware. If not, try a different Linux distro, as you'll find lots of differences between them. ;-)

http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

But, applications like Kdenlive or OpenShot are available with a mouse click or two after you install most popular Linux distros, even if one of them is not preinstalled (like Kdenlive is with SimplyMEPIS 11). Most Linux distros are very easy to install in a dual boot configuration with Windows (so you can select the Operating System you want to boot into each time you restart your PC).

Another way to go about it is to boot a Linux Live distro from USB Flash drive. Note that distributions using an Ubuntu base can be setup with Persistence (so that you customize one with any changes you make saved to the USB Flash drive). Here's one tool you can use for that purpose that lets you select a Linux distro for download that it can put on a USB Stick for you. I usually have a few of them (USB Sticks) in my pocket with different Linux distros on them. That way, I can boot into one from any PC I want to use.

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/univers...easy-as-1-2-3/

If you have a USB Flash Drive handy you can test with , I'd probably give Linux Mint 11 and Kubuntu 11.04 a try and see what you think of them. Those both use an Ubuntu base so they'll work with Persistence (just move the slider at the bottom of the USB installer tool I linked to so that you have space setup for that purpose, and you can install more apps to the USB Flash drive after you boot into it).

Then, if you find one you like and want it to work faster, just use the distro's install icon to install it to your hard drive in a dual boot configuration with Windows.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 2:26 PM   #3
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...I'm using SimplyMepis 11 (a free Linux distribution using a Debian Lenny base) on my wife's laptop right this minute, and it's got Kdenlive preinstalled.
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IRT my last post, if look under the Multimedia Menu choice, you'll see it.

Attached is a downsized screen capture from my wife's laptop I grabbed in June (not long after updating her to Mepis 11) showing the apps under Multimedia. Note that I have Lancelot as her Menu system, so it looks a bit different compared to the default menus in Mepis. If you right click on the panel and select the Add Widgets Choice, you'll see Lancelot in the list of Plasma Widgets you can click on to install if you want to use it instead of the default KDE menus).

You'll also find some graphics apps for still image viewing already installed. For example, Gwenview is pretty good for fast browsing of images. I've attached a downsized screen capture showing some of the preinstalled apps you'll find in Mepis 11 under the Graphics Menu choice pointing to it:

If you try Mepis 11 from DVD and decide to install it, there are some things you'll probably want to do in order to tweak it some from defaults. For example, adding the Mepis Community repositories and updating some of the applications to newer versions, adding the kipi plugins so digiKam and Gwenview have more features, etc. I can post some instructions on that kind of thing here if you do go that route so you can get a free video editor kdenlive without much trouble (as Mepis is easy to install in a dual boot config with Windows and can read and write to your existing NTFS partitions used by Windows).

Just let me know if you try it and decide you like it and want to install it in a dual boot configuration with Windows, and I'll post more info on that kind of thing.

Screen captures of Mepis 11 Multimedia and Graphics Menu choices from my wife's laptop. The apps you see for Multimedia and Graphics are preinstalled in Mepis 11 (so you try them from a "Live" DVD without installing anything):
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Wow Jim...that's a bit over the top for me! I was looking for something simple to do some editing of what would eventually be some home movies in HD. Any thoughts?

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If you don't like free (as in Kdenlive or Openshot, which you'd be able to use by booting into Linux from a USB Flash Drive), then I'd try the Sony products I mentioned in my first post.

They have trials you can download so you can see how they work for you, and the base Sony Vegas Movie HD Studio software starts out at $44.95.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiohd

Comparison of versions:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...udiopp/compare
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Jelpee:

I was just browsing through today's specials at newegg.com and noticed they have Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 on sale for $69.99 right now and remembered this thread. See this link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832135303

I'd make sure it works OK on your PC (download a trial version from Sony and try it) and that you like it before buying it.

But, that looks like a pretty good deal on it ($30 off the regular price with free shipping), and it appears that they may also have a rebate going on it right now, which would bring the price down to even less.
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Thanks Jim, will check it out...the price is insane!

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Just to make sure you noticed it, here's a link to the $30 off rebate form that looks like it's supposed to be good for purchases made through August 31:

http://images10.newegg.com/uploadfil...ug3111SL75.pdf

So, that should bring it down to $39.99 after the mail in rebate (since the sale price is $69.99 right now):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832135303
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I've been using Pinnacle Studio for some years now. Are you aware of any review sites that compare Pinnacle with Sony? Or perhaps are you personally aware of the differences? (The new computer arrives Monday...)
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And Premier Elements - they have an attractive bundle out there with Photoshop Elements...
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