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Old Nov 12, 2006, 1:45 PM   #11
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Hello and thanks.

Yes i noticed the nifty-stuff site/forum.

Aparently the only pragmatic solution is to be released in December 2K6 is the Armor.fr adaptor for canon the PGI/CLI series cartridges.

It's simular to my previous sugestion of a mid range patch. It fact it's a better idea than mine.

I don't know which market it will be released in first. However it will probably be the Euro market.

Here is a link to a photo of the product:

"http://www.druckerchannel.de/cache_bilder/std/interessantes_konzept_armor_bietet_neues_system_la f7df.jpg"

Here is a press release PDF doc.

"http://www.armor.fr/upload/a2a-9916.pdf"

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Old Nov 19, 2006, 3:57 PM   #12
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I have a Canon MP 830 and an IP5000. The IP5000 I have been refilling since I got it and that's great. Now with my MP830, it gives me the warning message about the tanks being low and I can still print from my PC with the annoying messages. OK, here is one problem that I do not know how to fix. I have a fax in the fax memory and it will not print because my ink is low. It wants new cartridges before it will print. I refilled the existing ones with no luck.

What is the solution to force a fax to print with low ink? Is there one yet?

Any help is appreciated....


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Old Nov 20, 2006, 11:33 AM   #13
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I have a Canon MP 830 and an IP5000. The IP5000 I have been refilling since I got it and that's great. Now with my MP830, it gives me the warning message about the tanks being low and I can still print from my PC with the annoying messages. OK, here is one problem that I do not know how to fix. I have a fax in the fax memory and it will not print because my ink is low. It wants new cartridges before it will print. I refilled the existing ones with no luck.

What is the solution to force a fax to print with low ink? Is there one yet?

Any help is appreciated....

Hi. There are two sensors on the canon printers (repsectively). One is a prism under the cartridge it's a photocell that detects light. This is located at the (under side)back of the cartridge print head & cartridge where you inject the ink. If the rear tank empties the message "ink low"will appear as the light is now getting through the empty tank that was once opaque with ink.

The other is the chip on the cartridge.

Your problem intrigues me. Normaly when you refill the PGI/CLI series it asks you to go through a process to ignore the refilled cartridge (all that voiding warenty error messages).

I'l look around for a solution

Also check to see if the outside of the cartridges are clean and that nothing fell onto the red leds or sensors on the print head (carefully!).









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Old Nov 24, 2006, 5:50 PM   #14
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I have a Canon MP 830 and an IP5000. The IP5000 I have been refilling since I got it and that's great. Now with my MP830, it gives me the warning message about the tanks being low and I can still print from my PC with the annoying messages. OK, here is one problem that I do not know how to fix. I have a fax in the fax memory and it will not print because my ink is low. It wants new cartridges before it will print. I refilled the existing ones with no luck.

What is the solution to force a fax to print with low ink? Is there one yet?

Any help is appreciated....

Try the unplugging trick. Unplug your mp830 direct form the wall outlet and wait no less than 70 Seconds then plug it back in.

try to print hte fax in memory then.

Enjoy

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 8:39 PM   #15
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http://www.discountcartridge.com/canonip4200.html

I found this...... wonder if this is our answer!?!?!? You actually replace the CHIP itself so the resetting would mark it as zero fires, I would assume. Anyone tried these yet?

I'm about to purchase the IP4200. What do you that own it think of the printer besides the ink situation? I've read it's great and I've seen it prints at 9600 x 2400 instead of the normal 4800 x 1200. Anyone see a big difference in the printing? I know it's using 1 picoliter (think that's the right word.... don't laugh if it's not :O) which should make for a sharper image.

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 10:51 PM   #16
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http://www.discountcartridge.com/canonip4200.html

I found this...... wonder if this is our answer!?!?!? You actually replace the CHIP itself so the resetting would mark it as zero fires, I would assume. Anyone tried these yet?

I'm about to purchase the IP4200. What do you that own it think of the printer besides the ink situation? I've read it's great and I've seen it prints at 9600 x 2400 instead of the normal 4800 x 1200. Anyone see a big difference in the printing? I know it's using 1 picoliter (think that's the right word.... don't laugh if it's not :O) which should make for a sharper image.

Thanks!
Gina
Hello.

Actualy there are already several such carts on the market.

24.99$ is the standard price i've seen. Dyesub inc. has the same kit.

As for the printers i would have to rate them as "very good".

What the people are looking for in the "chip" concern dept. Is a way to reset the canon chip (as one can do with most Epson cartridges via a hardware chip reseter).

In order to allow ink monitoring and to eliminate that agrivating "canon warenty" error message sequence.

At the moment therer is no way to reset the canon chips, nor are there any replacement (new chips) currently available.

Also if you look around most of these canon pgi/cli refill pages/sites are near exact copies of each other, photo's included.

It's been about 3 years now that we've been plagued by the encrypted canon chips.

I know that Armor.fr has a solution. However you are forced to use only armor.fr brand ink cartrdges, which are just as expensive or even more expensive than the OEM Canon carts.

Best of luck.


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Old Dec 18, 2006, 5:27 AM   #17
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Hi Guys,

Just throwing my two bobs in.

I am the owner of a company that specialise in CISS (Continuous Ink Supply Systems) for the Canon printers. We (as a company) have at this point exhausted every effort in regards to the cracked Canon chip issue. At this point the only company that produces an alternative (aside using a CISS) is that listed in the previous posts. There are some chinese companies listing aftermarket cartridges with chips attached for $4.50US and another for $6US via alibaba.com. We have spoken (via our chinese counterparts) directly to these companies and at this stage their advertising is false. So sadly at this point you can either refill using the chip monitor disable function or use a CISS. But at this point even we require you to transfer the chip to our CISS units (although this is only the once).

For those who haven't read through the posts here is a link to our manual for the CISS and it covers the full reset procudure for those who need it.

http://www.rihac.com.au/instructions/canon/IP4200.pdf

I'm sorry this sounds like an add but in a way it is I guess!!!!. CISS units are a cheap and effective alternative to refilling and buying cartridges. I started my business like most people on this forum (refusing to pay unrealistic prices for cartridges) .

Regards all and feel free to visit our website www.rihac.com.au and also please feel free to ask any questions regarding printer issues as I'm sure we can help (as long as you post the replies here for others) info@rihac.com.au

Regards,

Sam Cahir

RIHAC Digital Solutions Australia


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Old Dec 18, 2006, 12:35 PM   #18
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Hello: Sam Cahir.


The IP4200 works great with your CIS kit.

Unfortunately not all the canon printers work well with any cis system. They don't work well on the MP830, 780 or the IP3000, e.t.c.


You can find info on the MP830, 780, and ip3000 CIS problems on the nifty-stuff.com forum. The main problem is all the snake-ing of the tubing.

At the moment the only and simplest means to refill the CLI/PGI is to use the semi spongeless (with plumbing) cartridges (hard to find) that all you do is leave the cartridge in the printer remove the plug and inject the ink into the tank then replug.

http://www.efillink.com

http://www3.telebecinternet.com/rave...non/IP4200.pdf

I supose you could just leave the oem cartridges in the pritner and devise some sort of good sealing easy to remove and replace plug.

Since the cover of the MP830 of 780 does not open straight up using screws as plugs will have you taking the cartridges out.

I've tried simular sponged cartridges with the colour coated plugs. The only down side it that it only fills the rear tank and slowly is absorbed into the sponge, so you have to calculate about 30% less ink in the cartridge than a normal vaccum fill or near sponge less cartridge.

Now before any one sais it. Yes in the pdf doc (above) it shows filling via a top vaccum. It's good to do that on the first out of pritner fill.

The video on the efill web site shows the "in printer" refill instructions.

The cartridges in the pdf have air vent holes to allow air to escape when refilling (see the "2" in red on the top right photo).

I hope to find more to try. Soon.

Enjoy.






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Old Mar 18, 2007, 7:55 AM   #19
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I own a Canon ip1700 and I love it's quality. I have refilled the ink about 6 times and except for the annoying message while printing, everything worked fine - until yesterday. I tried to print and got a different kind of message that allowed no other option than "Cancel Printing". The printer light flashed yellow 4 times (code for replace BJ ink). Ok, maybe time to get aanother cartridge. I certainly got my money's worth out of these two.

Cheap bastard that I am, Iwent online looking for a Canon print cartridge reset procedure. What I found was a posting about the Canon S450. The post included beep (light) codes and a waste reset procedure. Looking at the waste procedure i thought to myself "could it really be that easy?!??". Well, it is. Printer works great and the annoying message is now gone.

Post reproduced here:

Four flashes: BJ cartridge out of ink
Five flashes: BJ cartridge not installed correctly
Six flashes: BJ cartridge not installed
Seven flashes: BJ cartridge defective
Eight flashes: Waste ink absorber almost full
The POWER light flashes orange and green alternately: Service error

Re: Canon S450
Error Codes

Error Condition Indicator BEEPS Error
Code Possible Solution
Paper Feed/Delivery
Orange 2 Remove any paper jammed
Paper Jam
Orange 3 Remove any paper jammed
Ink Out
Orange 4 Add Ink
BJ Cartridge Mismatch
Orange 5 Re-install cartridge or replace it. See notes below for correct positions
NO BJ Cartridge
Orange 6 Re-install cartridge or replace it
BJ Cartridge Error
Orange 7 Re-install cartridge or replace it
Waste Full warning
Orange 8 Waste is almost full, needs service very soon
Auto Head Adjustment Error
Orange 9 Is there Black and Cyan ink ?
AutoAlignment requires Black and Cyan inks.
ROM Error 1 x
Orange 10 Try unplugging the printer for 30 seconds, if not requires service.
RAM Error 2 x Orange 10 Try unplugging the printer for 30 seconds, if not requires service.
EEPROM 3 x
Orange 10 6800 Try unplugging the printer for 30 seconds, if not requires service.
Home Position 4 x
Orange 10 5100 Make sure nothing is blocking the cartridge movement, if not requires service.
Temperature Sensor 5 x
Orange 10 5400 Try unplugging the printer for 30 seconds, if not requires service.
Waste Full 6 x
Orange 10 5B00 Needs Service
Cartridge OverHeat 7 x
Orange 10 5200 Replace the BJ Cartridge(Printhead)
Cartridge Overheat 8 x
Orange 10 5200 Replace the BJ Cartridge(Printhead)
Cartridge Displaced 9 x
Orange 10 5600 Replace the BJ Cartridge(Printhead) or reinstall
None None 5910 Needs Service
None None 5C00 Needs Service

Notes - BJ Cartridge Mismatch

This error can be caused by installing the BJ Cartridges (Printheads) in the wrong position in the printer. The Correct combination are as follows

Left Holder Right Holder
BC-30 BC-31
BC-32 BC-31

Insure the Cartridge lock levers are down. Reinstall both Cartridges.

Waste Error Reset

1: Power off printer
2: Hold RESUME button then press and hold POWER, the beeper will sound once.
3: Hold POWER and release RESUME
4: Press RESUME twice
5. Release POWER button
6: When the indicator lights steady, press RESUME three(3) times. The indicator should be orange.
7: Press POWER to set data


Hope this post saves you all a lot of time and money. . .
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Old Mar 25, 2007, 12:03 PM   #20
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Hackman,

The Ip1700 can be reset without that cancel printing message coming up. Here is what you do.

After refilling your cartridges, ( or if you've already replaced them remove them and re-install them )close the cover let it go through all it's rebooting then press the reset/resume button for at least 6 seconds. This will reset the printer and override the chip settings. It will not reset the ink levels though...but it works.

This info came from atlanticinkjet.com who I buy my refill inks from.

Try it it works great, hope it helps you out



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