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engineer · Mar 9, 2004, 2:30 PM

Pulled a few drives from the mini IPOD.. will format in windows just fine and able to copy files from to in XP but get an ERROR2 on 10D and on my 1ds get card not formated do U wish to format? when I say yes... it freezes in format mode with drive light on. Any suggestions???

thanks

Heybruck · Mar 18, 2004, 11:49 AM

I have yet to find a camera where the Ipod drive will work. It's not the same drive as the other MP3 player. Different part number and there is NO CF logo indicating it is NOT Compact Flash spec compliant.

NHL · Mar 18, 2004, 2:31 PM

Heybruck is correct, no one has managed to get the iPod 4G drive to work on any digicam yet... It'll work when you format it and put the device back on the MuVo2 though, or through the PC:

http://search.dpreview.com/forums/se...mini&forum=all

steve · Mar 21, 2004, 1:03 AM

Can't say for sure - never seen an iPod drive. The ones in the Muvo2 are definitely Hitachi 4GB Microdrives - the OEM drive with the white label on the front - they do have a full Hitachi label on the backside. But there is no CF logo on it...

6/17/04 update - looks as if all new MuVo players now use the same incompatible Microdrive as the iPod Mini. Before buying one on eBay make sure that the last three digits of the model number are 41C, 42B, or 43B - these are usable, the 44C drives are not.

-Steve

mjo1951 · Mar 21, 2004, 5:50 PM

According to my information, both the 1Ds and the 10D support FAT32 partition. There have been numerous warnings, however, NOT to attempt to remove the hard drive (yes, they are made by Hitachi) from the iPod Mini as they will not work properly.

huckle · Mar 21, 2004, 8:10 PM

Here's an article that might spawn some interest:
http://www.photo.net/equipment/hitachi/mp3microdrive/

engineer · Mar 22, 2004, 9:38 PM

This is the guy that wrote the white paper that is on Hitachi's site about the CF Microdrives.. funny part is, he actually answered it.. His answer is on top of my question. The part number is the one off the drive for the mini IPOD. I think the last line in this is a hint.. Someone may want to post this one elseware: Looks like this may be a reverse engineering fiasco.

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It is an OEM (Black/White label) drive. And as such, is customized for that companies application at their request. Also at their request I cannot divulge what is different. There are no CF compliance labels on it since it is NOT Compact Flash org complaint. Only our retail package (blue label) drives are trully CF Compliant as indicated by the CF mark on them. Hence, they will work in all cameras that are also CF complaint.
Other OEM drives with different partnumbers are also not CF compliant and meet the requirements of that customer. All are subject to change without notice as well. So if you have an OEM drive that works now, one from that same mfg may not work later on....

BILL

William F. Heybruck, Ph.D.
Senior Applications Engineer
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies
4732 Lebanon Road, Suite D
Charlotte, NC 28227

03/20/2004 07:30 AM

To: bill.heybruck@hgst.com
cc:
From: engineer
Subject: Part number 13G1768

I know U have probably been asked this a million times so U might want to post the answer on your website...

why wont this drive work in a digital camera??? It seems to work fine everywhere else such as Pcs but just not digital cameras???

Japair · Mar 30, 2004, 3:35 PM

I hate to b the bringer of bad news but:

Quote:

Originally Posted by YahooNews

iPoding reports an Apple insider who mentioned that Hitachi has disabled CompactFlash support in the Microdrives supplied to Apple for use within iPod mini. This means that once the drives are removed from Apple's music player, they stop working.

More @ http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040308/101/enyox.html

engineer · Mar 31, 2004, 4:28 PM

Well, the IPOD drives will work in a compact flash reader on a computer. Ive confirmed that . They will supposidly work in a Muvo 2 but I have not seen that one in action. Also, I did get ahold of a drive out of a Muvo 2 just to test, and the Canon 1DS will read and write fat32 and give U full access to the 4gb drive with about 360 raw 11 meg images of space.. Gives over 650 shots raw on a 10D.

NHL · Mar 31, 2004, 5:17 PM

That's correct the iPod drive will work in a laptop and inside a Muvo2... It just does not want to work in digital camera! :twisted:

Mar 9, 2004, 2:30 PM	#1
engineer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4	4GB Microdrive from Apple mini IPOD Pulled a few drives from the mini IPOD.. will format in windows just fine and able to copy files from to in XP but get an ERROR2 on 10D and on my 1ds get card not formated do U wish to format? when I say yes... it freezes in format mode with drive light on. Any suggestions??? thanks

Mar 21, 2004, 5:50 PM	#5
mjo1951 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Microdrive torn from iPod According to my information, both the 1Ds and the 10D support FAT32 partition. There have been numerous warnings, however, NOT to attempt to remove the hard drive (yes, they are made by Hitachi) from the iPod Mini as they will not work properly.

Mar 22, 2004, 9:38 PM	#7
engineer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4	From the Horses or shud I say Hitachi's mouth This is the guy that wrote the white paper that is on Hitachi's site about the CF Microdrives.. funny part is, he actually answered it.. His answer is on top of my question. The part number is the one off the drive for the mini IPOD. I think the last line in this is a hint.. Someone may want to post this one elseware: Looks like this may be a reverse engineering fiasco. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It is an OEM (Black/White label) drive. And as such, is customized for that companies application at their request. Also at their request I cannot divulge what is different. There are no CF compliance labels on it since it is NOT Compact Flash org complaint. Only our retail package (blue label) drives are trully CF Compliant as indicated by the CF mark on them. Hence, they will work in all cameras that are also CF complaint. Other OEM drives with different partnumbers are also not CF compliant and meet the requirements of that customer. All are subject to change without notice as well. So if you have an OEM drive that works now, one from that same mfg may not work later on.... BILL William F. Heybruck, Ph.D. Senior Applications Engineer Hitachi Global Storage Technologies 4732 Lebanon Road, Suite D Charlotte, NC 28227 03/20/2004 07:30 AM To: bill.heybruck@hgst.com cc: From: engineer Subject: Part number 13G1768 I know U have probably been asked this a million times so U might want to post the answer on your website... why wont this drive work in a digital camera??? It seems to work fine everywhere else such as Pcs but just not digital cameras???

Mar 31, 2004, 4:28 PM	#9
engineer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4	More info on Ipod Drives/Canon 1DS test Well, the IPOD drives will work in a compact flash reader on a computer. Ive confirmed that . They will supposidly work in a Muvo 2 but I have not seen that one in action. Also, I did get ahold of a drive out of a Muvo 2 just to test, and the Canon 1DS will read and write fat32 and give U full access to the 4gb drive with about 360 raw 11 meg images of space.. Gives over 650 shots raw on a 10D.

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Mar 18, 2004, 11:49 AM	#2
Heybruck Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	I have yet to find a camera where the Ipod drive will work. It's not the same drive as the other MP3 player. Different part number and there is NO CF logo indicating it is NOT Compact Flash spec compliant.

Mar 18, 2004, 2:31 PM	#3
NHL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,358	Heybruck is correct, no one has managed to get the iPod 4G drive to work on any digicam yet... It'll work when you format it and put the device back on the MuVo2 though, or through the PC: http://search.dpreview.com/forums/se...mini&forum=all

Mar 21, 2004, 1:03 AM	#4
steve Administrator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,535	Can't say for sure - never seen an iPod drive. The ones in the Muvo2 are definitely Hitachi 4GB Microdrives - the OEM drive with the white label on the front - they do have a full Hitachi label on the backside. But there is no CF logo on it... 6/17/04 update - looks as if all new MuVo players now use the same incompatible Microdrive as the iPod Mini. Before buying one on eBay make sure that the last three digits of the model number are 41C, 42B, or 43B - these are usable, the 44C drives are not. -Steve

Mar 21, 2004, 8:10 PM	#6
huckle Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 160	Here's an article that might spawn some interest: http://www.photo.net/equipment/hitachi/mp3microdrive/

Mar 31, 2004, 5:17 PM	#10
NHL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,358	That's correct the iPod drive will work in a laptop and inside a Muvo2... It just does not want to work in digital camera! :twisted: