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Old Jan 27, 2013, 2:42 PM   #1
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We had a catered dinner before an I-Ching seminar at our neighborhood service center. I took a few pictures for the service club and here are afew examples. All pictures were taken with a canon 430EX11 bounced with a Sto-fen diffuser pointed 90 degree up, ISO 400, 1/160sec, f/8, WB to Auto, and flash set to TTL mode. The 14-42mm kit lens was used in all the pictures.
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Old Jan 27, 2013, 10:29 PM   #2
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You would know better, but the exposure and color look normal and natural to me. That's the look I'd expect and want.
 
The cups and utensils are the proper white and all the colors look good, even the wood and food seem realistic. I don't think anyone would have any reason to complain about their complexion. All the action is frozen and the focus looks pretty good from front to rear.
 
The second one of the group at the table would have been a difficult shot.
 
Looks good to me.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 9:30 AM   #3
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All images have good exposure however the group photos look soft. When I compare pictures taken with my G3 vs. the old G1, the G3 images come out softer even though I have the sharpness set higher on the G3.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:39 AM   #4
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All images have good exposure however the group photos look soft. When I compare pictures taken with my G3 vs. the old G1, the G3 images come out softer even though I have the sharpness set higher on the G3.
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Group pictures are difficult to have everyone in focus when people are not lining up. However, I have one picture here where everyone are standing on one line, yet the picture still look soft. I think this may have to do with the optical quality of the kit lens. There is little we can do about it unless we have a better lens on hand to use.

Take a look on the second picture of my friend, Sabrina, taken at a different time with a canon T3i, with a 24-105mm L lens, at 55mm, f/4, 1/80sec, ISO 500 and no flash used. I think this picture looks better and sharper than the pictures I took with the G3 with flash. The lens quality does make a difference.

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Canon EOS T3i, EF 17-40mm f/4L, EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6, Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM, 430 EXII Flash.
Sony A200, SLT-A58 System with HVL-F42AM Flash.
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M4/3 systems: Olympus E-PL1 and Panasonic DMC-G3.

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Sorry Michael, I disagree. The second photo looks loft as well (and the WB seems to be a bit off). Sure the lens makes a difference however, the problem could be associated with the lens aperture used. The G3 kit lens is pretty decent for a kit lens. When you are photographing a group of people where not everyone is at the same focal plane, using a smaller aperture is recommended because it increases the DoF and sharpness.
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Tullio,
Perhaps Sabrina's picture may be a poor comparison to the group. First of all, the picture was taken under fluorescent lights. I just set the WB to AUTO which explained why it looks a little off. If a flash was used taking this picture, the output of the flash may be able to overcome and offset the WB to make it looking more natural. Canon DSLR often has problem adjusted the WB in such circumstances. The picture is not retouched with software and it is cropped version of the original. The aperture was set at F/4 which caused it looking a little soft. However, such softness to me is acceptable for a portrait.
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Canon EOS T3i, EF 17-40mm f/4L, EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6, Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM, 430 EXII Flash.
Sony A200, SLT-A58 System with HVL-F42AM Flash.
Mirrorless APS-C camera: Samsung NX100, Canon EOS-M.
M4/3 systems: Olympus E-PL1 and Panasonic DMC-G3.
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