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Old Feb 1, 2006, 2:39 PM   #21
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I agree with most of what you have to say slipe, but to pick one nit:

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For more complex corrections PT Tools with a good GUI is better, but it is a
lot more work. ...
The time taken with Panorama Tools is in learning how to use it (and the GUI).
Once thattime been spent, dealing with pitch, roll, yaw (for rectilinear projections),
perspective corrections, and lens aberations is very quick.

Waves (and other moving stuff) are difficult and cannot always be satisfactorily dealt
with. However, being able to pick where the stitch line goes will oftenat least avoid
a distracting well defined "line" runs across the stitched image. Being able to pick
where the stitching takes place is abig advantage of having PhotoShop masked
layers as the output.
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Waves (and other moving stuff) are difficult and cannot always be satisfactorily dealt
with. However, being able to pick where the stitch line goes will oftenat least avoid
a distracting well defined "line" runs across the stitched image. Being able to pick
where the stitching takes place is abig advantage of having PhotoShop masked
layers as the output.
I'm afraid that went over my head. Are you taking masked layers into the PT GUI? Are you masking at the stitch point and how do you get it exact?
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Just let PT with GUI do the stitching and set the output to masked PhotoShop layers.
PT will align the layers. The masking defineswhere the stitch "line" goes. By
changing the mask so more (or less) of the underlying layer shows through you can
make a stitch "line" follow any path you want.

Seems most things with PT are easier to do than to explain. It is a steep andhigh
learning curve to figure it out, but things seem to click into place as the learning
goes along. I pecked away at it for more than a year before it fell into place -
though part of that was figuring out PhotoShop at the same time.
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Just let PT with GUI do the stitching and set the output to masked PhotoShop layers.
PT will align the layers. The masking defineswhere the stitch "line" goes. By
changing the mask so more (or less) of the underlying layer shows through you can
make a stitch "line" follow any path you want.

Seems most things with PT are easier to do than to explain. It is a steep andhigh
learning curve to figure it out, but things seem to click into place as the learning
goes along. I pecked away at it for more than a year before it fell into place -
though part of that was figuring out PhotoShop at the same time.
The explanation was quite clear – thanks. So you can actually make a curved stitch path with PT GUI? I guess I have to bite the bullet and buy it.

I'm happy for you that you figured out Photoshop in a year. I've been using it since version 3 and still find myself in the help files and tutorials more than I would like. I think Photoshop 3 dates back ten years.

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See this page from my PTGui tutorial that shows how to bend the seam around features by editing the layer masks in Photoshop. You cannot vary the seams within PTGui itself, though you can apply masks (alpha channels) to the input images to exclude areas, and these will be preserved through to the automatic blending programs such as Enblend.

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... So you can actually make a curved stitch path with PT GUI? I guess I have to bite the bullet and buy it.

I'm happy for you that you figured out Photoshop in a year. I've been using it since version 3 and still find myself in the help files and tutorials more than I would like. I think Photoshop 3 dates back ten years.
Panostar has it right - you move the stitch lines in PhotoShop bymessing
aboutwith the masked layers. Attaching the layer masks with the airbrush
toolusing a graphics tablet makes short work of it. John Hougton's tutorials
(Panostar's link) are very good and have a much better explaination.

Didn't mean to imply that I know much about PS -rather that it took me a fair
time to figure out even a little bit of it. I do recall PS on a 486-66 with the
same fondness as recalling dropping a heavy chunck of iron on my foot. Painfull
to say the least. Gave up on it for a good long time.
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