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Old Sep 11, 2006, 11:34 AM   #1
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I am not a tech person, and i was wondering if someone that may have a better understanding could explain some thine to me. Firstare the chip being written to? or it just a counting the number of time it fired? Is this information stored in the printer? if so how many cartriges can it store? I have read all kinds of thing about the canon cartiges and havnet seen this before......that i recall. I was wondering if you take 3/4 cartriges (of each color) and refill them before they reached the prizem would it register as a new cartriges after being replaced this many time?

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 4:36 PM   #2
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Hi. I do not have a Cannon but I believe that the software does count or has an algorithm that calculates the usage and determines when the cartridge is empty. This is the same as for the Epson. This value is stored in each cartridge. So refilling at 75% would not work.

The Epson can have its chip re-set and I believe that the Cannon can have the count disabled. How to do this is explained in this forum or others.

I refill my Epson carts with ease. My refiller supplied a plug to seal the fill hole but I found in another site advising that hot melt be used. I now use hotmelt. It seals the hole which in my carts is bottom down and I have no leaks. Removal ofthe hotmelt seal is just a matter of carefully peeling it off.

I use the ink gauge to judge when to refill, a good thing with epson. I have a chip resetter. My Epson is a RX530

If I had a Cannon I would find out what kind of usage one would get from full carts and record usage, refilling at an estimated 50% use. Thats of course once you have disabled the count.

This site is where I get my ink from. It has a lot of good advice on refilling Cannons

http://www.inkbank.com.au

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I do not sell ink or represent anyone who does. I thought I would let people know where I get my ink from in the Sydney area. As the ink I purchased for my Epson appears as good as the Original

What gave you the idea I was advertising, something you would do?
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Old Nov 3, 2006, 4:35 PM   #5
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I was wondering if you take 3/4 cartriges (of each color) and refill them before they reached the prizem would it register as a new cartriges after being replaced this many time?
Simple answer for the new Canon chipped printers,.. NO!

The printer recognises that the cartridge should be empty and reacts accordingly.. It also recognises that a cartridge has been refilled using the prism so you're doubly damned..

For all that though, so long as you are careful refilling and take heed of the possible 5th cartridge issue (ie: people reporting that you need at least one original, unfilled OEM for the printer to work).. you should be fine.
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The printer recognises that the cartridge should be empty and reacts accordingly.. It also recognises that a cartridge has been refilled using the prism so you're doubly damned..

For all that though, so long as you are careful refilling and take heed of the possible 5th cartridge issue (ie: people reporting that you need at least one original, unfilled OEM for the printer to work).. you should be fine.
I understand how to over-ride the printer when refilling. I also understand how to refill the cartridges, I think.

What I am unsure about is when to begin the refill process or when to transfer the chip if using an aftermarket (pre)filled ink catridge. What is the best way, in your opinion, of when to over-ride the printer and begin using aftermarket inks?

Also, since ink cartridges are used in varying rates (Magenta seems to be used at twice the rate of all other colors), can you begin using refilled cartridges one at a time or do you need to replace them all at the same time? (I am mindful of the possible need to keep one OEM never refilled cartridge in place for the printer to work.)
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I understand how to over-ride the printer when refilling. I also understand how to refill the cartridges, I think.

What I am unsure about is when to begin the refill process or when to transfer the chip if using an aftermarket (pre)filled ink catridge. What is the best way, in your opinion, of when to over-ride the printer and begin using aftermarket inks?
In my personal opinion you want to think about refilling for the first time when the cartridge reaches about 25% full or possibly sooner. It doesn't hurt the cartridge (so long as you do it right).



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Also, since ink cartridges are used in varying rates (Magenta seems to be used at twice the rate of all other colors), can you begin using refilled cartridges one at a time or do you need to replace them all at the same time? (I am mindful of the possible need to keep one OEM never refilled cartridge in place for the printer to work.)
In my experience the cartridges go at differing rates dependant on what it is that you're printing but on the whole I'd go with one or two at a time.. Try to avoid refilling them ALL in one go because the printer may get a little antsy. If you only yank the cartridges out to refill with the printer off (and before they register as "low") you shouldn't have any problems though.
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Excellent info. Thanks!

What 3rd party ink are you using?

What do you think of it compared to OEM Canon ink?
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Excellent info. Thanks!

What 3rd party ink are you using?

What do you think of it compared to OEM Canon ink?
I'm using ink from Image Specialists (resellers: MIS www.inksupply.com and Gemini Colours www.refillink.nl).

It's not quite as good on the colour tones but not far off.. in truth I haven't really sat down to do a proper comparison but it does a good enough job that I'm not really fussed. You have to remember my usage is in school who print stuff and have it on the fridge door or wall display for a month at most.. Not an art exhibition

nifty-stuff forums have more info on ink comparisons I believe so you can always check in with them..
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