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Old Jan 19, 2007, 1:30 AM   #1
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Do you care who makes the ink you use? And I'm not talking about the genuine Epson or Canon cartridges you can buy. I'm talking about the ink sold for our CIS or bulk refill by MIS, IR, Media Street, and others. None of these companies make their own ink, do they? They buy it from a manufacturer and re-package/re-bottle to sell to us, right? That is ok with me, I don't want to work with 55 gallon drums:!: Do you trust these re-sellers to know which ink maunfacturer knows how to make the ink that is closest to the OEM ink? The best ink? If I'm a re-seller, I would advertise/promote the manufacturer of the ink I'm reselling. If I'm a re-seller, I would not be afraid that I would loose business to the ink manufacturer because I know the manufacturer will not sell just 8 ozs of ink.
So why do I care? Well, I'd like to know if the ink I'm buying is from Wang Son Ki Ltd or Image Specialists Inc., for example. Do you care to know?
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Old Jan 19, 2007, 10:29 AM   #2
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To cary999,

The point I want to make in answering you is that its not so much a matter
of do I care----I select my ink basically two ways---(a) I want to avoid buying a pig in the poke---if I just buy from this unknown company I may discover this really cheap and great ink---or I may get something that clogs my printhead.--so I hang around forums like this and let someone else do the experimenting. (b) Once I decide on a vendor---I want consistant quality order to order--and over time. So if my supplier
changes their supplier---I want to know about it---so I am not chasing my troubleshooting tail if I then get different results.---some suppliers will let you know,
others will not---I only select vendors who will.---and I ask before dealing with them.
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Old Jan 19, 2007, 10:02 PM   #3
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Osage, I agree. For these reasons I asked MIS who supplied their CLI-8 type ink. They refused to tell me. Ok, fine so who in the holy he11 am I anyway? Just a nobody to them who wants to buy $70 worth of ink, big deal. You must be "somebody", how do you get the this type of info out of the suppliers?
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Old Jan 19, 2007, 11:12 PM   #4
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Another way to look at it. Automobile tires. I want a new set of tires for my car and I go to Sears. Does Sears have their tires manufacturer hidden? No, they tell you who makes the tires, Michelin, Goodyear, Toyo, etc. (Do I need to know what kind of steel cord Michelin uses? No, don't need to to know that). What I want to know is the manufacturer and knowing that I can trust their reputation for making a good tire. Inks, I don't need to know the chemical formula of the ink just that it has been made by someone who knows how to do it. Can I evaluate ink suppliers/manufacturers? Nope. But if I have the opinion that a manufacturer, e.g. Image-Specialists, makes good ink then I would choose a re-supplier/bottler of their ink.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 1:33 PM   #5
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You could have a look here:
http://image-specialists.com/
They are a manufacturer. There is a form to fill out to get samples of their inks. Unfortunately, they won't send them to you as an end user, but will tell you where you can buy them. Or you could call or e-mail them and I am sure they will tell you.
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 3:31 PM   #6
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to Cary999--who asked--For these reasons I asked MIS who supplied their CLI-8 type ink. They refused to tell me.

In the case of MIS, which is a known named brand that has been around for a long time, that consideration does not apply that much. In fact now---the so called big three of known reliable inks are MIS, formulalabs, and hobbicolors.

Its when you get into the smaller outfits--you mentioned IR and media street where I would worry. And there are many chinese inks that5 have the virtue of being very cheap--and sometimes also very good---and sometimes very bad.

But your auto tire anaology covers it very well.---but still let buyer beware--I bought a GE phone--and called GE about an odd ball question I had---and discovered it was not madeby GE--it just carried a GE label.

In terms of me having special clout--forget it--but I do call them up and ask---and if I don't like their answer or attittude---I don't buy from them.---that super power we all have.
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