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Old Nov 30, 2003, 8:08 PM   #1
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Default What's the real story on print quality from the Epson 2200?

My questions are to you 2200 users: Do you find that metamerism is a problem? Are your prints as clear and vibrant as with dye printers? Do you have difficulty getting the colors to be true in value and saturation?
I am ready to buy a wide format printer and am considering either the Epson 2200 or the Canon i9100. My Epson 2000P just died an inglorious death with either a clogged or a damaged print head, which I could not resuscitate. I don't want to invest $200 to replace the print head when many of the photos are less than satisfying with metamerism and a hazy dull appearance, despite making a number of custom profiles for the printer. I fear the 2200 for the metamerism, which some say still exists, and possible dullness of the prints compared to the i9100. Yet I fear the fading prints of the latter.
To test them I took my test print files on disk to a computer store and convinced the Epson and Canon representatives, there on the same day, to have a print-off. The Epson man couldn't get his machine to work at all. The Canon man printed some beautiful prints on the Epson paper I provided. In six weeks they have not faded, though admittedly stored in a pile of papers. I went to a different store and got a different Epson man to print with the 2200, but he didn't know how to work the computer or printer very well and they came out horrible looking.
I plan to print mostly on matte and semi gloss, mostly color, but some black and white. The bronzing of glossy paper doesn't bother me very much, since I won't be using it often. The company provided test prints look very good, but are they really reproducible? Whatever help you could give me I would appreciate.
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Old Nov 30, 2003, 8:35 PM   #2
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My questions are to you 2200 users: Do you find that metamerism is a problem? Are your prints as clear and vibrant as with dye printers? Do you have difficulty getting the colors to be true in value and saturation?
I am ready to buy a wide format printer and am considering either the Epson 2200 or the Canon i9100. My Epson 2000P just died an inglorious death with either a clogged or a damaged print head, which I could not resuscitate. I don't want to invest $200 to replace the print head when many of the photos are less than satisfying with metamerism and a hazy dull appearance, despite making a number of custom profiles for the printer. I fear the 2200 for the metamerism, which some say still exists, and possible dullness of the prints compared to the i9100. Yet I fear the fading prints of the latter.
To test them I took my test print files on disk to a computer store and convinced the Epson and Canon representatives, there on the same day, to have a print-off. The Epson man couldn't get his machine to work at all. The Canon man printed some beautiful prints on the Epson paper I provided. In six weeks they have not faded, though admittedly stored in a pile of papers. I went to a different store and got a different Epson man to print with the 2200, but he didn't know how to work the computer or printer very well and they came out horrible looking.
I plan to print mostly on matte and semi gloss, mostly color, but some black and white. The bronzing of glossy paper doesn't bother me very much, since I won't be using it often. The company provided test prints look very good, but are they really reproducible? Whatever help you could give me I would appreciate.
so you have delt with 2 Epson reps that have NO clue how to use the machine/computer?? seems familiar, I went to 2 places on Sat to look at epsons, ironically enough the reps had NO clue (if fact since I do so much research on the net, I knew more than they did). Also, the compUSA guy knew a LOT about the printers (1 guy knew nothing, the other was a total stud in what he knew). I hate going and looking at products only to have a clueless employee or rep there. I wonder if this is the result of the internet and price competition, people just cant pay professionals anymore, when other places like Best Buy pays 16 year olds minimum wage?
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Old Nov 30, 2003, 8:58 PM   #3
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I'm finding no problems with print from the 2200.

But my system is fairly well color-matched, what I scan is pretty much what I see on the monitor and what prints from the printers using the right paper profiles.

Black & white prints tend to have a color cast that is hard to get rid of unless you use a RIP program. Like epsons Stylus rip for the 2200 or ImagePrint RIP

If you are looking for wide format printers here is Epsons lineup:
the epson 2200 is 13 inches wide, 7 * 20ml ink cartridges
the epson 4000 is 17 inches wide, 8 * 110ml or 220ml ink cartridges
the eoson 7600 is 24 inches wide, 7 * 110ml ink cartridges and
the epson 9600 and 10600 are 60 inches wide, 7 *110ml or 220ml ink cartridges.

Scarry but a full set of 220ml cartridges is over 800$.
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