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Old Dec 13, 2003, 6:27 PM   #11
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Nirvana,

I ran a test on a print printed with my mothers inkjet printer and a print made with the Hi-Ti. When running my mother in-laws photo underwater, the ink bled and picture-GONE.
I then took the Hi-Ti photo, ran it underwater, blew off the water and then wiped it on my sweatshirt. Picture fine!

To be fair, I don't think my mother in-laws printer is of a higher quality . I suspect with higher quality inkjet printers, the better they may perform when submitted to abuse tests.

Curious, has anyone here run such a test ? If so, the results?
While I haven't run a test, qua test, friends of mine use an Epson 1280 to print proofs of competitors at the race track, hang them up on easels and use them to sell prints. During the summer months it is not unusual to have summer afternoon thunderstorms some of which are very heavy. They have not experienced any problems with the prints running (on glossy paper) in heavy rain...

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Old Dec 13, 2003, 9:44 PM   #12
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I have the Canon i9100 and previously the Canon S800 (the first of their high quality and speed printers).

Using the Canon Photo Paper Pro, I have been able to take freshly printed image and run it under water and have not had any issues with the ink running. You can buy a kit of Canon Photo Paper Pro for Borderless Printing 10 Pack - 4 in x 6 in Paper - 200 pcs. (10 Packs x 20 pcs.) for $55.08 (27.5 cents per sheet). Most places you can walk into will charge $9 per pack.

I also use the Photo Paper Plus Glossy. Buy.com has that paper (50 sheets) for $7.97 (about 16 cents per sheet). Most places will charge between $12 - $15 for the same pack. This paper qualifies for free shipping (7-9 business days)
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 11:08 PM   #13
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I have the Canon i9100 and previously the Canon S800 (the first of their high quality and speed printers).

Using the Canon Photo Paper Pro, I have been able to take freshly printed image and run it under water and have not had any issues with the ink running. You can buy a kit of Canon Photo Paper Pro for Borderless Printing 10 Pack - 4 in x 6 in Paper - 200 pcs. (10 Packs x 20 pcs.) for $55.08 (27.5 cents per sheet). Most places you can walk into will charge $9 per pack.

I also use the Photo Paper Plus Glossy. Buy.com has that paper (50 sheets) for $7.97 (about 16 cents per sheet). Most places will charge between $12 - $15 for the same pack. This paper qualifies for free shipping (7-9 business days)
what's the difference between Photo Paper Pro and Photo Paper Plus Glossy?

Also, I've heard these two papers leave a yellowish tint on prints.
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 11:19 PM   #14
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I have a friend with an Epson 2200 who gave it a beer test--I believe it was dark beer--and the print came through fine if just a tad tipsy.
*GASP* He wasted good beer!? lol
I think I like your friend, as far as his choice of beer (dark) 8)
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 11:32 PM   #15
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During the summer months it is not unusual to have summer afternoon thunderstorms some of which are very heavy. They have not experienced any problems with the prints running (on glossy paper) in heavy rain...
You mean to say; they keep their photos unprotected, out in the rain :!: :?:

From what you've heard (question to all), would you say the Epson prints fair better than Canon prints?
Or does this have everything to do with paper? I've been hearing that the pigment inks are reported to last longer.

Too bad there wasn't a consumer forum dedicated to abuse tests. That may sound somewhat comical but would be interesting, never-the-less. Steve (if you happen to read this) would you consider creating a new forum, dedicated to abusive trial experiences?

Just a thought :idea:
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Old Dec 13, 2003, 11:49 PM   #16
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dcrawley,

Have you experienced any fade issues?
Just today, I had read in a photographic magazine that one way in which to protect your print (when behind glass) from "airborne contaminants" is to "use inexpensive aluminum foul as a vapor barrier." Supposedly, according to this author,
this will "slow down or eliminate the absorption of water vapor and damaging gases"

Have you heard of or tried this?
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Old Dec 14, 2003, 11:45 AM   #17
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The Photo Paper Plus Glossy is not as lightfast as the Pro nor is it as glossy. I have not experienced any color shifts. Both my i9100 and S800 worked great right out of the box matching my calibrated montior

I have not really had any fade issues. I will say this: I made one print that was on the side of my refrigerator (not under glass, etc)that has a window nearby that has daylight coming through it most of the day--that pic faded in about 3 months. I have another print that is taped to my office wall (my office has 2 floor to ceiling windows on the south and 1 on the west- I get sun all day long)that has been there 2 years and is just starting to look a little light. Those are the only issues I have had.
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*GASP* He wasted good beer!? lol
Only enough to perform the test. He reported that all of what remained was put to far better use.

Beer aside, I've found that prints on glossy stock from my Epson 1270 are still bright and have true colors though they've hung on a wall facing daylight for over two years. Granted, they're under glass, but I seriously doubt that sunlight is inhibited by that.
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The Photo Paper Plus Glossy is not as lightfast as the Pro nor is it as glossy. I have not experienced any color shifts. Both my i9100 and S800 worked great right out of the box matching my calibrated montior.
So are there any drawbacks to getting the Photo Paper Plus Glossy instead of the Pro?

I mean, is the Pro a lot glossier, and what else does it have that the PPPlus Glossy doesn't?
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Old Dec 16, 2003, 6:52 PM   #20
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Ilford Galerie Classic Pearl is highly recommended by many. I think the Canon papers are more likely to fade or shift when left unprotected than others.

For storing in photo albumns within sleeves or under some kind of lamination I think matte papers like Epson Matte Heavyweight will hold up quite well.

There's no golden rule that says you must use Canon paper in a Canon printer. I'm glad for this, because I don't like Canon paper, it's over priced, hard to find and I've had some fading issues with the cheaper plus paper.
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