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Old Oct 29, 2002, 4:54 PM   #1
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Greetings,

I'm interested in purchasing a new color printer. The most important feature for me is being able to automatically print on two sides. It seems that the HP printers have the broadest line with this feature. I was hoping I might get some insight on which printer to choose. The printer should cost less than five hundred dollars.

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Old Oct 29, 2002, 5:58 PM   #2
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You're right on with the HP! I have the older PhotoSmart that can print double side, the only problem is the photo paper is only coated on one side, and it can't print bordeless 8x10...

Mine is the 3-colors type that use the high capacity 78 cartridge ($48 from Costco) and can output at least 130 photo quality 8x10s from a single cartridge. At $20 per 100 sheet (also from Costco), it works out to be around 70 cents per 8x10 using real HP cartridge and Epson/Kodak photopaper!

The newer PhotoSmarts are more on par with the competition with 6-colors ink, but so are their cartridge price! (I'm discounting the generic no-brand cartridge)
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Epson makes a double-sided matte paper. I use their heavyweight matte paper (single sided) with my Epson 1270 and it does a great job. The double sided paper (coated on both sides) costs a couple of dollars more per 50 double sided paper. Might fit your needs...
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Old Oct 30, 2002, 3:09 AM   #4
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Since you are posting on a Photo Inkjet forum, I assume that you primarily want to print photos.

As far as I know there are no photo printers that print on both sides of the paper automatically. You have to take the paper out, possibly wait for it to dry, and re-feed it the other way up.

General purpose printers which can print on both sides of the paper without re-feeding will not produce as good photo quality prints as a specialist photo printer.

If you are happy with re-feeding, your main problem is that there is a very limited selection of double sided photo paper available. If you only want to print text on the reverse side, you may find that the uncoated side of photo paper is quite adequate.
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The HP PhotoSmarts as well as several other HP newer 6-colors series will print double sided automatically without having to take the paper out and re-feed them! They even have programmable time before the HP printers pull the paper back in and print the other side (this is why they can't do bordeless)... Just look in the back of HP printers, they all have a removeable duplex unit (its just that they are not standard on the entry level models only!)

Even HP older ones with only 3-colors ink quality are extremely good with their ink layering technique that you'll ve hard press to tell the difference with 6-color ink competition. I use them intensively for sample runs since their 8x10 cost are so low, and only go to my other Epsons (1270 and 785EPX) for a more critical print!

I can do over 130 photo 8x10's from a single high capacity HP78 cartridge. The smaller Epson 5-color cartridges only do around 30 8x10 or so before they run out... The Epson cartridge is cheaper of course, but you got to get 4 of them to achieve the same feat as the HP! BTW Don't get confuse here people, cartridge cost is meaningless, it's cost per print that counts! That's how all printers manufacturer recoup their 'give-away' printer price....
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The HP 5550 is capable of printing on both sides. The duplexer is an add on accessory. I have the HP 970CSE which came with the duplexer. It can be used in the HP 5550. The HP 5550 is not a "photo printer" but it can print in the six color mode with an optional photo cartridge. The photo cartridge replaces the black cartridge. The dual side printing has a drying time before it starts to print the back side.
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My apologies - I didn't know about the HP duplexer unit.

Personally I haven't done much printing of photos on both sides of a sheet, although I sometimes print photos on one side and text on the other. One practical problem if you are doing this is that you tend to be printing photos out of one piece of software and the text out of another, so it is normally easier to do the printing in batches anyway, turning the paper over by hand.

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No need for apologies. We are all trying to learn more from each other. Even though my HP printers are cabable of duplex printing, I choose to print to one side at a time and then flip and print the other side. It is faster.
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