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Old Aug 23, 2005, 4:46 PM   #1
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It had to happen...
I heard an audible alarm on the printer yesterday printing..
well after almost 6 months.. and over 100 DVD-Rs printed.. (as well as other documents and lables) I need more ink!
Canon ink is too much so I found some options...
(well I am cheap! and the printer only cost me 30.00)

Thanks!! zakezuke
I have two recommendations for third party inks:

1. inkgrabber (third party cartridges)
2. MIS Associates - refill kit

Choice one is less in the short term, but choice two is more economical based on ink quanity. - I get more refills than just one!

Anyone have experiences to share?

I am almost out of Black and very low on the Magenta.
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Should I mix MIS ink with Canon ink? I bought the $40.00 aprox MIS refill kit to try out.
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Old Aug 23, 2005, 5:42 PM   #2
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Mix the ink? If you bought the mis refill kit then they include blanks so you don't have to. Unless you are asking if there is a problem if you replace the Black and Magenta. That's what I did, I didn't have a problem. In theory the colors are balanced to each other

http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inktest.html

So in theory this might affect colors... as in greys might be warmer or cooler. But I didn't notice a thing. In my case I replaced cyan and magenta first. Yellow and black next. While I'm aware that this could affect the color balance to a degree I didn't care.

The only thing missing in the MIS kit are good long needles, or better still bottles with long blunt needles attached to them. I believe syrenges are only required in cases where you fill using negative pressure, as in suck the air out first and the vacuum pulls the ink in. But the only place I know where one can buy bottles with needles attached are from the IMS (not MIS) kit at costco, and the set costs $15 to $20 and the bottles are filled with ink that are reported not to work well with the canon.

Also be careful of those orange caps and washers. Without those any attempt to fill creates a mess. Those washers might be inside the caps, but they might not. They are rather specific to the empty tanks you bought.... i.e. you can't use them to refill your old canon ink tanks as they don't have 4 notches on either side.
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Old Aug 24, 2005, 2:17 AM   #3
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Oh, no there are two kits
40 and 60

difference being the one has empty carts the other doesn't.

I choose to re-use my old canon carts.


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Old Aug 24, 2005, 3:35 AM   #4
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Oh, no there are two kits
40 and 60

difference being the one has empty carts the other doesn't.

I choose to re-use my old canon carts.

In that case i'd highly reccomend reading and or talking to the folks on
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=6

I tried to refill mine, I made a mess. I imagine it's not all that difficult if one takes the time to seal the hole you made with a hot glue gun.
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I can vouch for InkjetGoodies refill inks, I've been using them for over 2 years on various Canon printers, currently running an i865, iP4000, iP6000D and soon an iP8500.

They sell ink in 4oz and 8oz sizes as well as empty cartridge bodies, syringes etc. or you can buy it all togetheras a kit. You can double the figures they quote for the number of refills, from a 4oz bottle I get about 20 refills (@ 6cc/ml) no problems with colour or quality :-)

http://redrockinnovations.com/Mercha...ory_Code=I22-3

http://redrockinnovations.com/Mercha...egory_Code=R01

Just about to order $200 worth of ink to pick up when we holiday in the US in October, shame they stopped shipping to the UK, just means I'll have to holiday in Florida more often
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Old Sep 1, 2005, 5:55 AM   #6
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I recently discovered an old posting regarding different ink options with color swatches and some fade testing

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=12198835

Based on the look, it's suspected that MIS, Media Street Plug and Play ink are both actually "Image Specialists".

Some very good info including a reccomendation for a darker dye black for canon.


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I like http://www.swiftink.com ink it's good quality and at only $4, one third the price.
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well..
MIS experience
The kit is very minimal.
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I choose to re-use old canon carts... but the kit didn't include a method to remove the plastic ball blocking the air vent? I poked it into the ink chamber. I don't know if that will affect things...
I coverd the holes with scotch tape.. I hope that is sufficient.
I don't think is is providing enough negative pressure and will dry out the ink carts..

but immediately printing after a refill is a bad idea... why the cotton filter isn't yet saturated with the new ink. Cohesive power of the ink molecules take time to draw in the new ink.

so I will wait 24 hours to test again. I can't believe how little volume of ink is in a cart.

made a bit of a mess... as I didn't have the old caps to cover the exit hole of the ink...
should have used gloves.. the ink sticks quite well to your skin!
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but immediately printing after a refill is a bad idea... why the cotton filter isn't yet saturated with the new ink. Cohesive power of the ink molecules take time to draw in the new ink.

so I will wait 24 hours to test again. I can't believe how little volume of ink is in a cart.

made a bit of a mess... as I didn't have the old caps to cover the exit hole of the ink...
should have used gloves.. the ink sticks quite well to your skin!
You pretty much have to use bleach to get the ink off your hands, folowed by lava or some sort of pummus soap. This is rather why I reccomended the refillable tanks. A viable alternative would be reusing the old tanks but using hot glue. I was totally unsuccessful refilling my tanks but I used electrical tape, what I had handy. It was either that or blue tape.

While I stand by my reccomendation for inksupply... now that i'm aware that Media Street plug and play inks are virtualy identica to MIS and both are bloody likely to be "image specalists"l phaedra1106's link does have the ink as costing less, i'm not able to verify shipping. I might give them a shot my self as inksupply does take 4 days via fedex to get to me, where inkjetgoodies claims i'm in the 1day zone, shipping out of Utah.


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Well.. I screw'd up.

without a proper plug in the hole I created to fill.. All the ink dripped out.. I am sure I have shortened the life of my printer as it has needlessly had to absorb all of that ink.

I need to find some rubber plugs/stoppers and try to fill again.

inkjetgoodies kit has plugs etc... a bit more in price.. but more complete.

what an experience.
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