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Old Mar 9, 2003, 7:01 PM   #1
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Default Canon i850 or Canon i950 ( have the epson 950 now)

I know there are a few posts about this. I have currently have the epson 950 and I think it uses ink at an incredible rate. I want a printer that will do great photos a few times a week and super high quality colour inkjet printing every day. Which one should I buy? The i850 or i950? why is there such a big difference in price between the two if the quality isnt vastly different?

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Old Mar 9, 2003, 8:40 PM   #2
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The cannon i950 is not going to be cheaper on ink. If you want something that has a lot of ink in it I reccomend spending 2500 dollars and getting a pro printer.

i850 would probably be cheaper in ink but it wont do as good as the current printer you have now on photos.
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Old Mar 10, 2003, 12:47 AM   #3
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>>The cannon i950 is not going to be cheaper on ink.<<

If you consider that the ink tanks are BIGGER and that you only REPLACE them ONE at a time as the individual cartridges run out (not all at the SAME time when one runs out), AND if you consider that the Canons waste less ink on start up, and given the fact theres no chip to tell you the cartridges are empty when really there is still 10 to 20% ink left, I think you'll agree the Canons are MUCH cheaper to run ink wise than are Epsons :-)

>>The i850 or i950? why is there such a big difference in price between the two if the quality isn't vastly different?<<

The i850 has 3 colors and uses 5 AND 2 picolitre size droplets. The i950 has 6 colors and uses only 2 picolitre droplets, your Epson uses ONLY 5 picolitre droplets.

Canon has done an AMAZING job on the i850 (although you'll find a few who disagree, mostly people who have never seen any prints from the i850)

See Steve's review of both the i850 and i950 on this site. You can get a pretty good idea of the advantages and differences.

I have the Canon i850, and I'll tell you right now, folks I've shown my photos to can't tell the difference between them and a side by side comparison with the same photos I've had done at the local 1 hour photo lab, and thats good enough for me.

If you choose to get a Canon, which ever model, I think you'll be more than pleased with it.

But don't take my word for it, spend a couple hours on line and read a few of the other Internet printer forums, and then decide for yourself which printer is best for you.

(a quick search on any Internet Search Engine will reveal 100's of sites with info on printers of all makes)

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Old Mar 10, 2003, 12:05 PM   #4
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My recommendation would be to keep the Epson 950 and buy a second printer for your non-photo requirements. The 950 is a top quality photo printer but, like most specialist photo printers, is not well suited to non-photo work.

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Old Mar 10, 2003, 12:37 PM   #5
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Since you do not have any research at all I'm going to tear your post apart.


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If you consider that the ink tanks are BIGGER and that you only REPLACE them ONE at a time as the individual cartridges run out (not all at the SAME time when one runs out), AND if you consider that the Canons waste less ink on start up, and given the fact theres no chip to tell you the cartridges are empty when really there is still 10 to 20% ink left, I think you'll agree the Canons are MUCH cheaper to run ink wise than are Epsons :-)
Hmmm I think you might be very confused because the epson 950 which is the european version of the american epson 960. Has ink tanks which are rated to last longer than the ones on the i950. Not to mention they are seperate ink tanks and they are a dollar cheaper each than the canon i950 ink tanks.

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The i850 has 3 colors and uses 5 AND 2 picolitre size droplets. The i950 has 6 colors and uses only 2 picolitre droplets, your Epson uses ONLY 5 picolitre droplets.


The cannon i850 and the i950 both use the same two drop size technology. The differences however are that the canon i950 uses 6 colors and prints the full resolution on all colors. The i850 only uses 3 colors when printing photos. Also for text uses the i950 costs 2.5 times as much as the i850. so instead of having a cost per page of 4 cents a sheet(i850) you have a cost per page of 10 cents a sheet(i950).

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your Epson uses ONLY 5 picolitre droplets.
The epson 950 is the worlds first 2 picoliter droplet printer. It also uses 8 different droplett sizes vs the cannon i950 only uses 2. Also you would be very hard pressed to find an epson printer that uses a 5 picoliter droplett size and that has been manufactured in the last 4 years. Except for the epson pro series 10000 which is so big you do need the small drop sizes because no one will ever look that close.

Oh yeah here is a link to the printer he is talking about http://www.epson.co.uk/product/print...o950/index.htm


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My recommendation would be to keep the Epson 950 and buy a second printer for your non-photo requirements. The 950 is a top quality photo printer but, like most specialist photo printers, is not well suited to non-photo work
I agree with this. I would reccomend getting a laser printer for your text based needs. Or if you want high quality stuff at a low cost per page on plain paper I woudl consider getting an epson c82. It uses the durabrite inks which are very nice to use.
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Old Mar 10, 2003, 2:29 PM   #6
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i have been using the epson 950 printer mainly for short run printing of jewel case inlays because of the high quality colour printing and also for occasional photo prints. i find the cost of replacing the inks every week not very cost effective. What are my other options? Should I get a colour laser printer or would that be just as expensive? I need high quality prints but reasonable pricing for regular prints.
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Well a color laser would put your ink cost per jewel case in the range of about 3-4 cents a sheet vs what you have now is probably in the range of about 16-25 cents. The cheapest cost printing on an inkjet would probably come from an HP 2230 with its large seperate ink tanks. The printer in the US costs about 300. In the Uk I think its 294 here is a link to the HP printer http://www.hpstore.hp.co.uk/item?SID...223&sku=C8119A


That printer produces high quality prints at a very low price per page. I dont have specs but if I'm right for the color printing it should be in the range of about 6-8 cents a sheet on ink costs.
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Old Mar 21, 2003, 12:18 AM   #8
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This is just to clear up some misconceptions about ink capacity of the Canon I950 versus other printers each of the BCI 6 tanks contain 13ml of ink and yield the below list page counts


Ink Tanks: Capacity (pages):
Black (BCI-6BK) approx. 1000*1, approx. 760*2
Cyan (BCI-6C) approx. 750*2
Magenta (BCI-6M) approx. 620*2
Yellow (BCI-6Y) approx. 460*2
Photo Cyan (BCI-6PC) approx. 340*2
Photo Magenta (BCI-6PM) approx. 260*2
*1 1500 characters per page, normal text, at standard and plain
paper mode with Windows XP
*2 Based on printing the ISO JIS-SCID No.5 pattern at standard and
plain paper mode with Windows XP
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That was just simply confusing. The way I read it was that you replaces you light magenta most frequently and on every third light magenta you replace all the others.

Also I'm very cuirious as to what this ISO JIS-SCID No.5 looks like. As far as I can tell from searching the web it is a standard only used by cannon print testing and not very well explained by anyone. Also I could not find a sample anywhere of what that sample looked like. Unlike Epson which is run by a seperate company and is very well explained below. http://www.actech.com.br/sc28docs/j28n307o.pdf
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JIS-SCID are Japanse image standards - a little hard to find ops: admittedly, but Epson and Fuji along with others use them too
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