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Old Feb 8, 2006, 2:38 AM   #1
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In 1990 only Epson was the Leader in the Professionel Market for Photos for Pros.
Only their high resolution inkjet printers could approach Photo Quality.
But now Canon has improved a lot with their new Prixma, even if they are not real Inkjet Printers, but Bubble Printers, which had let them in the past as a poor outsider...
And the others have also good new features.
But I remember HP saying that : "more than 600 DPI was just marketing stuff !...".
Indead, HP has always refused to increase their output more than 600 DPI !
But is it still the case now ? What is their actual DPI ?
Anyway, could anyone serious consider HP printers for Photo for Pro ?...
If yes, then which Models ?
And then, what about Canon : which models for Photo for Pro ?
Still, Epson is the King, dont you think ?
So, which best Model from epson for Photo for Pros :
- 5770 DPI : is it real or interpollation ? But what do you mean by interpollation, because a printer use hardware to print, and in the other hand, a scanner use memory and software, to mathematically interpollate. So, I understand interpollation in scanners, but I do really not understand what it is standing for in a printer ! Could you clear this point to me ? So, if it is interpollation, what is the real DPI of these Epson ?
- 8 separate ink cartridges hexachromes. (what to think about their Durabrite, for Photo : I think it is too pale and mate, dont you ?)
- A4 without borders.
- I am not interested by memory card readers, or pictbridge, or LCD screens...
And what about other type of printers : which ones would be also best for Photo Pro :
- Colour Lazer ? Which ones ?
- Sublimation ? Which ones ?
- Others ? Which ones ?
And what do you think of the multifunctions ?
Have they improved ?
Would you accept them for Photo Pro ?
And then, which ones, from epson, or Canon, or else ?
And also, which one combines a best Photo Printer as well as a best Scanner for Pro use ?
Thanks.
Frederic Laroche.


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Old Feb 17, 2006, 5:00 PM   #2
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Well, the Canon i9900 and relatives is a very fine printer, especially for color work on glossy paper. The longevity reports on the dye/paper combo seem to indicate only 20+ years with some display/storage care, so that is the downside for this printer, as well as reports of somewhat poorer B&W performance. This is a very fast printer, as well. The factory color profiles are okay for Canon paper, but for best results, a pro would want to invest in some custom profiles for the papers used.

Then there is Epson in R1800 and R2400. These will do panoramas that the Canon will not, although the width limitations are the same. These guys are using pigment inks, and I think the R1800 at least has a gloss optimizer to deal with some of the surface texture produced by the pigment inks on glossy paper. For non-glossy work and B&W these two printers are supposed to be at the top of the heap. A bit slower than the Canon, and without (user) replacable print heads. Don't know if they have the typical Epson head clogging problems or not. I can say from experience that the Canon i9900 does not have a head clogging problem, even after months of not being used. The Epson printers may produce prints with longevity out beyond a 100 years if ALT is to be believed.

For dye sub, Kodak is selling some professional printers at a reasonable price point. Kodak is claiming archival longevity, but independent tests indicate that these prints probably come in at a longer life than Canon, but a shorter life than Epson pigment inks.

I have and use a Canon i9900 for display prints. The ink costs for landscape type prints is around 1.3 cents US per square inch, plus paper. This for use of over 20,000 square inches. I am very pleased by the results, and find them of comparable quality to the wet prints I used to make in my darkroom. They are a bit more expensive to run on a materials basis, but much faster and easier to print slides, for example.

I also currently us an Epson R300 for CD/DVD and thumbnails. It does clog, but this is not in the same league as the proline printers above. I have also used older Epson tabloid size printers. Head cloggin has always been a problem, using a lot of ink to clean it out. I have also use a Fargo Dyesub back in the mid-90s. The Canon inkjet produces better results than the dyesub, but they are vastly different generation. Dyesub was rather expensive, at a bit over 3 cents per square inch.
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Old Feb 23, 2006, 1:38 AM   #3
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Thank you for Infos.
I think that Epson has always been the best for Pros, but because of this clogging pb, that I dont know if it is still there with the R1800 or R2400, I may now consider for a Canon.
And now there is an update : Canon Pixma i9950.
It seems pro enough for me.
But another question :
If I dont need A3, because I just want to make mainly Proofs, and not always Final Prints :
What Pro Models from Canon or Epson, just in A4 ?
Thanks for that.

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