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Old Jul 20, 2006, 7:48 AM   #121
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I have been using a continuous ink system purchased from eBay for over a year with absolutely no problems for my 2 Canon printers. I have also been searching for the best one on the net but they all look the same but with different names.



The best thing to do is to look for actual buyers of these systems on eBay and read their comments. I have also seen posts on forums from what looks like the ink system manufacturer's themselves self praising their own products and pretending to be actual customers.



It looked quite simple when I got the system, with tubes attached to empty cartridges and tanks. How different would it be from one manufacturer to the next and is it worth paying $200 for one (often empty) when I can get it for under $80 on eBay already with ink? If you properly install it and take care of your printer well such as turning it off when not in use, the system will save you hundreds and even thousands of dollars a year.



All printer manufacturers make most of their money off of selling you their expensive cartridges so it is in their best interest and the interest of websites selling the manfucturer's printing supplies to bad mouth products that will block their profits. Beware of bias forums set up by such websites. There are many of them all over the internet.



eBay members are real and ordinary people who have no bias. Printers are so cheap now but the cartridges have remain very expensive for obvious reasons (making money and breaking the backs of hard working individuals). My system came with a 30 day money back return policy but I had it for over a year and have seen no problems. The bulk ink is very cheap at only $25 to fill all 8 of my colors with 100 ml each or 8x100 ml of ink. 800 ml of ink is about 80 cartridges that I would have had to purchase from Canon if I did not have this system. Each Canon cartridge is around $14 so you do the math ($14 X 80) and find out how much I saved for $25. When purchasing a system just make sure you buy it from a seller with a reputable feedback.







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Old Jul 20, 2006, 7:50 AM   #122
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You may want to try http://www.kyson.yangportal.com. They offer a 30 day free trial and their ink is made in the USA. Not imported. They also provide a printer protection program where if their product damages your printer in any way, they will pay for the cost of replacing the printer.



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Old Jul 20, 2006, 2:43 PM   #123
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Make your mind up are you Chris or Steve..

Please stop with the same old post because you're adding nothing new and frankly I'm hearing that a lot of ebay buyers end up with CIS's from sellers seem to be poorly manufactured, require a lot of care and patience to get them working properly and rarely provide the support promised.


In short, buyer beware... so back to the iP4200 shall we?!
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 8:50 PM   #124
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ok all, well I purchased a new ip4200, got $80 off it. Could not find a decent non chipped canon printer so I opted with this one. the photos look great too.

Now I am looking at refilling. But also am considering CIS system Im just a bit confused though.

Is it possible to use the CIS system as well as the 3rd party refillable inks?

I dont even really undertand the CIS system to be honest. For the CIS System will i still need to purchase the OEM canon inks?

thanks in advance
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 5:26 AM   #125
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Is it possible to use the CIS system as well as the 3rd party refillable inks?
Well if you remember that a CIS system consists of cartridges, tubing and reservoir you're obviously still going to need ink to fill and print with... And ink whether it's for refilling or CIS it is still ink... Just make sure you get ink that's compatible with your printer.

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I dont even really undertand the CIS system to be honest. For the CIS System will i still need to purchase the OEM canon inks?
For the new chipped printers you will need, at bare minimum a set of chips for the printer and a set of cartridges that fit.. It makes sense to use the Canon OEM cartridges as they already have the chips installed but you'd still need to convert them.

These discussion threads might be useful too:
http://www.continuousink.info/forum/...pic.php?t=3864
http://www.continuousink.info/forum/...pic.php?t=3792
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The chips on the original cartridges can be used again and again, Iused them in a continuous ink system for my Canon ip4200 printer several months ago, no any problem. I filled thiskit with the refill inks after the inks in the reservoirswere finished. very easy, just pour the inks into the reservoirs, nothing else. The kit came without chips, Itook the chips from my original cartridges andinstalled them on the cartridges of my continuous ink system for ip4200(there is amanual for that). no hassle. I have no idea why Canon uses the chips that can be usedagain and again. But fortunately their chips can work for my kit.it is a great product that saves me much money. thanks. by the way, I purchased the kit from http://www.echostore.com/coinksy.html, It seems they have almost all the continuous ink system for the popular Epson, Canon, HP printers. I bought another kit for my HP printer(HP 57/58 ). it is on the way. Hope it works great too.
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Old Aug 12, 2006, 5:30 AM   #127
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Hey guys

Iam buying a ip 4200 next week and i was was what a CIS system is.

I plan to refill but i dont know which brand gives the best quality. I can buy off ebay or an American site that offers cheap international postage to Australia via paypal. Does anyone knwo any

Btw whas the best brand? Inkjet? Signal Ink? Hobbi Colours? They are all compatiable with Australian ip 4200?

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 6:52 AM   #128
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Hey guys

Iam buying a ip 4200 next week and i was was what a CIS system is.

I plan to refill but i dont know which brand gives the best quality. I can buy off ebay or an American site that offers cheap international postage to Australia via paypal. Does anyone knwo any

Btw whas the best brand? Inkjet? Signal Ink? Hobbi Colours? They are all compatiable with Australian ip 4200?

1. CIS stand for continious ink system, as in drilling holes in your printer, putting in tubes, and sucking ink from external tanks. I don't use my printer enough to justify doing this, but if I was printing more photos I might consider it. As it stands I'm filling about once a month at most.

2. Hobbicolors does does international from the US using us postal service. I'm totally happy with the color. I'm undecided on the pigment black. Since MIS is now selling the new ink (www.inksupply.com) I will likely switch batch to them. You'd have to ask if they do international using USPS and use paypal. see also
http://www.image-specialists.com/GlobalDistributors.htm

3. Near as i'm aware, the inks are seperated into two groups. Japan, and not japan. And also, near as i'm aware, the ink is the same in the current generation, only the chips on the cartridges. I.e. you can't get cartridges from Japan and save your self a load of money, not without switching modes on your printer.





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1. CIS stand for continious ink system, as in drilling holes in your printer, putting in tubes, and sucking ink from external tanks. I don't use my printer enough to justify doing this, but if I was printing more photos I might consider it. As it stands I'm filling about once a month at most.
Just to note... Most CIS kits don't require you to drill any holes.. but you will need to potentially stick and/or glue some parts... With some printers you also need to make some minor alterations to your printer that could remove you from warranty protection.

For the iP4200 though I'm pretty sure the CIS kits are fairly non-invasive.
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What so good about the MIS ones?

http://www.inksupply.com/canoninks.cfm

I dont understand there measure..Oz?? Christ they dont even have a picture.

Could u recommend me to some good high quality American sites that sells refills/refill kits (the tools needed for refilling)

Also whats the difference between a CIS system or a compatiable inks? WHere could i buy CIS system? I have the original Canon ink chips.
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