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Old Jul 20, 2006, 2:50 PM   #11
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Sure, cheers for the advise. Its only because I was so excited. I checked out this forum for quality bulk ink but I could only find American based companies, so when I came across inkbottle...well Im sure you can understand. Keep you posted anyway.
Yep... understand totally... I haven't found any UK resellers for Image Specialists (which is what I use) but Gemini Colours in Holland are reasonable... unfortunately only in bulk..
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 10:10 AM   #12
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for US readers, i can recommend "print on a dime":
http://www.printonadime.com/.

they are also present on ebay:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...02953&frm=1728
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...61155&frm=1728

their prices are very reasonable, and my 3-month experience with their ink has been great so far. i am using their CIS (continuous ink system) for my epson r300. customer service is top notch: not only did i receive answers via e-mail within 2 hours, but the other day, they even gave me a phone call to my office to verify an obviously wrong order on my side; those guys are definitely honest!

i'm no pro, but i would say color fidelty is very good. portrait pictures of my wife and baby came out fantastic on glossy paper (kirkland brand from costco) using "ChromaLife" setting on the printer. printing itself just takes an "eternity" with that settting, but it's worth it.

direct printing onto DVDs works fine, too. there are some very fine streaks visible, though, but that is more hardware or driver-related than the ink's fault. other owners have reported similar problems with original epson ink as well.

i don't know about fade resistance -- and only time will tell, but the company has been in business since 2003, and i haven't read anything negative about them on net, yet, while searching through different forums. i suppose if fade resistance was really that bad, someone might have posted something...

for those who are more savvy than me, i think their ink supplier is something like "ChemTec" or "ChemTrec?" i forgot the exact name b/c the bottle, which has a 1-800 number for emergency calls, is at home, but i'll look it up and report back.

hope this helps.

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ps: btw, more expensive ink doesn't mean better ink... the profit margins are huge though!
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Old Jul 27, 2006, 6:34 AM   #13
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I have ordered 2x250ml bottles as a test with InkBottle_UK at just under £10 it is worth the risk I will also keep you posted as to the service and durability of the product, as you say starting out well is one thing but keeping up the service is another. Thanx again for the link. As for them just selling dye based inks that is what the majority of users want, there are not many users want anything more than that or have I got it wrong again Love the forum by the way we need a dedicated site for printing problems and this is as good as it gets.
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As for them just selling dye based inks that is what the majority of users want, there are not many users want anything more than that or have I got it wrong again
Actually pigmented inks are becoming more prevelant (eg: Epson C,CX, & D,DX series printers - C86, D88, etc..) and Canon use Pigment ink in their BCI-3 and PGI-5 cartridges.

Like you said not everyone but still important if you need that kind of ink..
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Beware !! Stav is happy to recommend inkbottle because it's his business. I know because we supplied him with our bulk ink a few times, only to find that he was relabelling it and selling on eBay for twice the purchase price. We have now stopped supplying him. His actions on this forum say it all.
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Im sorry to say Signalinkjet that your quite mistaken, I have dealt with them personally and the chap there shares the same name. Well not exactly, Im Stavriakis and his Stavros. Sorry you have had a bad experience but I have no complaints. Good luck
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Nice try Stavros. What are the chances that the person that recommends inkbottle has a greek name and the person that runs inkbottle also has a greek name. Also, that they both use the name STAV. I am sure the members on this forum are not as stupid as you seem to think they are and will draw their own conclusions.
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I use a lot of ink!!!! inksell.com is excellent.. compare the price ..quality is as good as mfg..domestic made in San Antonio Texas
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I use a lot of ink!!!! inksell.com is excellent.. compare the price ..quality is as good as mfg..domestic made in San Antonio Texas
i did buy from the bulk ink for my canon i960 about a year ago:
http://www.inksell.com/bki8050c.html and
http://www.inksell.com/bki8050p.html

i must say that the colors of those refill kits are RIGHT ON THE DOT! it was the best ink i found so far for my canon (ie. for the BCI-6 inks). unfortunately, at the time when i ordered from them (about a year ago), they didn't sell larger amounts than those 20 ml (?) flasks, which are good for only about 3 refills.

quick thought about the kit: the cartridge holder is pretty nice, but the whole refill concept *sucks* in detail *lol*. why?
#1. they include a "drill" which is more like a huge screw and could potentially kill your thumb or finger! *lol* you better get your own little dremel out and make a hole with it.

#2. if you refill according to instructions, ie. you place the cartridge into the holder, drill the hole, refill, and place the cap over the hole, the ink *will* leak during the refilling process *and/or* when the cartridge is in the printer! you can imagine the mess.

my remedy:
- needed tools: scotch tape, dremel with 3/32 or max. 1/8 drill bit, torch (a *real* torch, not a flash light, in case someone mixes up british and american english *lol*), old used knife, candle wax.
#1. before placing the cartridge into the holder, close the exit of the ink cartridge (that's the opening that supplies ink to the printer) with *one* strip of scotch tape. the tape does not have to seal the exit completely because the holder with its silicon ring will do that for you.
#2. drill the hole with your dremel as shown in instruction (ie. on top of the smaller cartridge chamber).
#3. refill: you will notice how the ink level rises in the larger chamber as well. don't overfill -- i would say leave about 1/4" of space. you'll need the space to create some *vacuum*! that's how you avoid leakage!
#4. light the torch, scratch a moderate amount of wax with your knife and melt the wax *carefully* over the torch by going back and forth over the flame. the wax should be at a point where it's juuuuust runny and clear.
#5. while placing the wax over the refill opening, slightly squeeze the cartridge on the sides -- that's how you create the vacuum. in the meantime, the wax turns cold and opaque. you can accelerate the cooling process by carefully blowing on the wax. you know that you are doing this right, when you notice airbubbles escaping through the wax while the wax is cooling down. if you accidentally sucked in the liquid wax, simply repeat this process until the refill opening is closed.
#6. remove the cartridge from the holder and take a look at the scotch tape. nothing should have leaked out, but if it did, do the following test: remove the tape and then slightly squeeze the sides of the cartridge: there should be barely any ink coming out of the sponge. if you do notice some dripping during this test, your vacuum was too weak and you should reseal the opening with new scotch tape, return the cartridge into the holder, remove the wax and repeat step #4. otherwise you have a good chance of having ink drip into the printer!

i have read an alternative to the wax method, namely to use a screw with a rubber gasket instead. that definitely is less technique-sensitive, but i can't comment on this method b/c i never tried it.

i hope this helps. happy refilling.

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