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Old Jun 7, 2008, 6:13 PM   #1
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Does anyone Know? Is it the plugin ACR 3.7 or is there a newer one that works with the camera/elements 4.0 combo?

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Old Jun 8, 2008, 1:19 AM   #2
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Sorry, lomitamike, but it looks like ACR support for the A700 doesn't come until version 4.2 -- which is not compatible with Elements 4.

Looks like you'll either have to upgrade to Elements 5 or look for a different RAW converter.

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Old Jun 8, 2008, 8:42 AM   #3
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You could use the free Adobe DNG converter and convert your raw files to .dng format first. Then, convert the .dng files using the Camera Raw plugins available for Elements 4.0.

http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

But, IMO, Camera Raw is a poor choice for converting A700 raw files anyway from tests I've seen, if you're shooting at higher ISO speeds (the demosaic algorithms used by Camera Raw tends to give a blurrier (i.e., watercolor) appearance to the noise grain compared to some of the other converters, even if you leave the Noise Reduction in Camera Raw at 0 (apparently, it's applying some anyway, and it doesn't mesh well with the way Sony applies some to the raw files from this model).

I'd find a different raw converter for the A700, unless you plan on shooting mostly at ISO 800 or lower.

In a commercial product, I'd try Bibble Pro:

http://bibblelabs.com/

For a good free converter, look at Raw Therapee:

http://www.rawtherapee.com/


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You could use the free Adobe DNG converter and convert your raw files to .dng format first. Then, convert the .dng files using the Camera Raw plugins available for Elements 4.0.

http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

But, IMO, Camera Raw is a poor choice for converting A700 raw files anyway from tests I've seen, if you're shooting at higher ISO speeds (the demosaic algorithms used by Camera Raw tends to give a blurrier (i.e., watercolor) appearance to the noise grain compared to some of the other converters, even if you leave the Noise Reduction in Camera Raw at 0 (apparently, it's applying some anyway, and it doesn't mesh well with the way Sony applies some to the raw files from this model).

I'd find a different raw converter for the A700, unless you plan on shooting mostly at ISO 800 or lower.

In a commercial product, I'd try Bibble Pro:

http://bibblelabs.com/

For a good free converter, look at Raw Therapee:

http://www.rawtherapee.com/

Thanks Jim:

Researching all the converters it seems that most users are biased with what they are using even if they have not tried the others.

I've read some really good things about bibble Pro and I'm going to continue researching with Bibble as the current favorite.

Does Bibble take AWR files and do everything from start to jpeg conversion or do you need another photo editing program to convert to jpeg?

I also read that if you purchase now that Bibble will update you for free when the new version comes out. Sounds pretty good.

Thanks again

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Try it. They have a fully functional trial version you can download. ;-)


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I think the easiest way to open a RAW file is to instal Irfanview. Then use Irfanview to save it as a TIFF file.

Of course I don't know whether it will open a RAW file from a Sony a700, but it certainly opens RAW files from my Nikon.


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I don't think it supports the as shot white balance with it's default settings, and the demosaic algorithms may not be optimized (it's using the dcraw.c code, but I don't know the parameters it passes). You're also better off doing basic noise reduction and tone curves at the raw level, prior to the demosaic process converting to another format like TIFF.

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