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I am debating between the NX20 and NX210. Need a push!
I haven't bought a decent camera in quite some time (other than point and shoots). The new mirrorless crop (esp with wi-fi) seem to fit the bill for my casual use - a step up from point and shoot, and not quite the deep end of DSLR. Both cameras appear to be the same quality, about the same cost, so its the other feeatures/subtleties that differentiate them.
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Both are new and state of the arts mirrorless camera. Effectively, if you add an electronic view finder to the NX210 it will be almost the same as the NX20. For, I have a NX100 which doesn't have an electronic view finder, I find it difficult to follow an moving object with just the LCD screen. The NX20 has everything built in, the flash and the eye level electronic view finder are a big plus. Remember, you can't attach an electronic view finder and the flash at the same time because their is only one hot shoe. I will buy a NX20 if I have my choice.
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Many thanks for that perspective.
Another item I read is with respects to optically stablized 18-55mm lense. My understanding is the the NX-10 has it, but the NX-20 does not !! If true: 1) isnt that a real-life concern re blur? 2) does this apply to ANY lense I would put on the NX-20? ... or just to the 18-55mm lense?
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I do believe the NX20 does come with a 18-55mm lens with OIS as does the NX10.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/camer...20-review.html This is not a cheap camera like my NX100 which doe not. You should like get a lens without OIS. You don't know when you will need until that moment when you wish you have it. Just look at my post on the night shoots I look in Shanghai. I could really use the OIS. One more thing, if you choose to get the NX210. The cost for adding an electronic view finder is $200.
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You are of course correct ; I now see the OIS right on the lens, and in many descriptions.
I willl try to dig up the reference that said the opposite, but perhaps it was an early pre-release sheet... or just plain wrong ![]() Is there more than one type of OIS? For example, see the review here : http://snapsort.com/cameras/Samsung/NX20 It shows the OIS lense in the pic, yet also states this under pros/cons : "No image stabilization. Risk of blur" Leaning to the NX20; No sure when it will be available in Canada, so may need to wait a bit.
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One other question.
The 18-55mm lense has an aperture range of f/3.5-5.6 Does this still allow one to take pictures where one wants a significant depth-of-field effect?
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You shouldn't have any problem of getting blurred background even at F/5.6. The standard 18-55mm is a very good lens. Look at the pictures I posted with Sigma 28mm F/2.8 was shot using F/5.6 st manually since it is a legacy lens.
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So, with resepct to other lenses, am I restricted to only the Samsung NX lenses? If not, how do I determine which lenses I can use with the NX20? That is how do I determine if a given lense is "NX compatible "?
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The "eleven" NX lenses are shown here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_NX_mount
Of these only 4 appears to have OIS :
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Yes, for lens choices, it somewhat limited. The 18-200mm is a good all around lens to have especially for traveling, but it is on the expensive side. I wonder if you can buy the NX20 with the 18-200mm without buying the standard 18-55mm lens. Then all you need to buy is the 60mm f/2.8 for macro.
What is budget anyway? I suggest you should look at the new and soon to be released , Nikon D3200 at $699.
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