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Greg Chappell Jun 29, 2010 1:04 AM

A few snaps from last Tuesday's MLB game
 
in Arlington, Texas. Texas Rangers vs. Pittsburgh Pirates.

A little too short to swing at..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...2_ghqDh-XL.jpg

Having a closer look..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...9_5qy2S-XL.jpg

Bat meets ball..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...2_qdELZ-XL.jpg

The irresistable force and the immovable object..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...7_iK4PY-XL.jpg

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...7_cp7wu-XL.jpg

Concentrating on the throw..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...8_qutd8-XL.jpg

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...4_DHXoM-XL.jpg

Playing in for the bunt..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Sports...8_ssudH-XL.jpg

JohnG Jun 29, 2010 6:58 AM

Greg,
Thanks for sharing - these are some nice fan shots from the stands!
Shot 1: catcher & ump aren't really necessary - the story is the ball on the ground and the player looking at it. The other elements distract from that story
Shot 2: Nice timing but the shot is overcropped and has too much noise. Faces are important and these have a lot of noise and loss of detail because of the high crop. Timing is very good though!

Shot 3: Very nice timing. But theframing again is an issue. The catcher isn't doing anything here - the story is the batter and the ball but they're pushed to the right of the frame and the background is very distracting. So the catcher and background distract from the story of the shot.

Shot 4: again good timing. But overcropping and noise really diminish the shot. It's also underexposed - remember it's faces that are important and the catcher's face and expression are critical components. Shooting at f7.1 is really hurting you here

Shot 5: exposure is better but the play is over and no one is doing much of interest - shot 4 was the moment.

shot 6: decent shot but the player leaving the frame is distracting and there's a lot of dead space - you need more reach to make a shot like this work - getting closer without having to crop and lose detail. The challenge of sports shooting is you're not going to be able to reach all the action on the field - so sit on action you CAN reach. That will improve the quality of your keepers.

shot 7: a bit late - nice to catch him in the air but you want to do it with the ball closer to his arm - the moment you want to capture is between this shot and the last.

shot 8: not much going on here. The face is underexposed and noise is an issue. And the fans at the top of the frame don't add much and distract.

You've got some decent shots Greg but you don't have enough reach to retain quality for what you're trying to shoot and you need the shots to be even tighter for them to work. Now, this may sound harsh to some people - but this is a sports photography forum - it's not a MLB fan forum. So, there are no bonus points for it being a major league team. A quality photo, shot tight, with shallow DOF and low noise of a little league game can be a lot better than fan shots from the stands at a MLB event. So, as a fan shot they work very nicely but as a sports shot, you've overextended the gear (and that's not a knock on the gear at all - it's extremely difficult to shoot in a pro park which is why I tell people if they want to shoot baseball shoot lower levels where distances and lighting are more favorable).

Greg Chappell Jun 29, 2010 3:53 PM

Thanks, John. I was hoping to get comments from you.

Yep, getting close at a MLB park is tough, and these particular seats were pretty good....15 rows from the field and one section beyond the Rangers' first-base dugout. To have gotten a few rows closer would have meant a higher price than the $65 I paid for these tickets....I know....cheap compared to the same seats at Yankee Stadium or Fenway!

The f7.1 aperture was brought on as a result of using a teleconverter in an attempt to get closer at the expense of a higher ISO setting and more noise. As a fan shooting these mainly for my own enjoyment, it's a price I'm willing to pay and it makes the game fun to give it a try. the lens was an f2.8-3.5 by itself and with the teleconverter, an effective field of view of an 800mm lens (actual FL of 400mm), and a wide open f7.1, meaning high ISO settings of 2500-3200 once the stadium lights had totally taken over....and I still had to crop many images to get what you saw above, so even getting pretty darn close sometimes isn't good enough when it comes to reaching all the way across the diamond in these big stadiums. In past years I have taken a Canon 10D and the 100-400L, sat in pretty much the same seats and had to do similar cropping, so I second the comments you made to someone in another post about getting at action at a major league baseball game.

Still saving (maybe forever) for that 90-250mm (180-500 EFL for this format) f2.8 Zuiko! By the time I'm able to buy the lens, the MLB teams may have priced me out of the market on tickets down this low.

Noiseware Professional helps quite a bit on the noise front. I shoulda used it the first time I processed these..

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/photos...0_6ZPnf-XL.jpg

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/photos...6_WJTxV-XL.jpg

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/photos...2_EGwzK-XL.jpg

http://gmchappell.smugmug.com/photos...6_jNShg-XL.jpg

raiderfan Jul 28, 2010 9:29 AM

great shots!!!


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