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Old Mar 19, 2012, 2:28 PM   #1
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f/3.2, 1/800sec, ISO 12,800..NR, selective sharpening applied in post.

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straight out of the camera, no NR applied.
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same settings as above, straight out of camera and cropped, no NR
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Very impressive.

I'm starting to see some [small but expected] color shifts in some areas of the D4 ISO 25,600 images in the other thread you started titled ISO 25,600 Basketball (and those are better than expected).

But, I'm *very* impressed with these ISO 12,800 photos.

It's amazing how much technology has advanced and the D4 is certainly a leader in high ISO sports photography.

I'm jealous. ;-)
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Old Mar 20, 2012, 4:57 AM   #5
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Noise control on some camera's is close to reducing the need for a fast lens..!!
Very impressive..!
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Old Mar 20, 2012, 7:29 AM   #6
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Thanks for posting. It's very interesting to see that you can crop so much at ISO 12,800 and retain "good enough" quality. What I mean by "good enough" is in the context of real world use for a sports image - 8x10 print or newspaper print. I don't care much about pixel peeping at 100%.

The first 2 images (final and uncropped) help illustrate that equipment does indeed make a difference. Too many people want to bury their head in the sand and spout on about it being only the photographer that matters. That's naive. Take that exact same photo with a d90 and crop like that and it would look far worse.

Thanks for sharing!
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Noise control on some camera's is close to reducing the need for a fast lens..!!
Very impressive..!
It's still going to be a case-by-case basis. Exposure is only part of it - focus performance also matters. I recall some posts on another board about performance of Canon's 70-300L indoors on 1-series - they focused pretty well. But, not a 75-300. The lens still matters (even though both lenses are f5.6). Also, the camera's focus system still matters. At least with regards to tracking moving subjects. I suspect you'll still need high quality optics and great focus system to use an f5.6 type lens indoors.
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Old Mar 20, 2012, 8:21 AM   #8
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Very impressive.

I'm starting to see some [small but expected] color shifts in some areas of the D4 ISO 25,600 images in the other thread you started titled ISO 25,600 Basketball (and those are better than expected).

But, I'm *very* impressed with these ISO 12,800 photos.

It's amazing how much technology has advanced and the D4 is certainly a leader in high ISO sports photography.

I'm jealous. ;-)
Yes I agree with the color shift. I havent shot in a gym yet where i would need 25,600 but its nice knowing its very usable. As far as football under the lights, theres one high school we play that i may need it but the others are pretty well lit.
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Noise control on some camera's is close to reducing the need for a fast lens..!!
Very impressive..!
Thanks for looking! Dont get me wrong, I love the tech in these new cameras but Ive always said, give me a "great" lens and a "good" camera and Ill be happy. And its because of what John said..Focus performance
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....The first 2 images (final and uncropped) help illustrate that equipment does indeed make a difference. Too many people want to bury their head in the sand and spout on about it being only the photographer that matters. That's naive. Take that exact same photo with a d90 and crop like that and it would look far worse.

Thanks for sharing!
Couldnt agree more, especially in sports!

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