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Old Jan 12, 2006, 10:45 PM   #1
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Canon 20D, ISO3200, 1/250th, F4, Tamron 17-35 @34mm.

Shot RAW, RAWSHOOTER tweaks.




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Old Jan 13, 2006, 8:21 AM   #2
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Terry,

Looks like the lighting was less than ideal to say the least.



Not a bad shot but, curious as to why you chose this one.



Most shots that you post capture facial expression (which is great) where this one catches the back of the head.



I know that you shoot for a news paper. Don't they want the faces in the shots?
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 12:18 PM   #3
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Shot way TOO wide.

With the difficult lighting and the exposure problems that go with it, I would sugggest a 2.8 lens - I think you own a Tamron 28-75mm 2.8. That will give you a higher SS and get you a tighter shot.

I really think you've got to shoot much tighter that this shot shows. A longer lens will do several things for you.
Eliminate all that distracting background crud.
Eliminate the kid in bottom right hand corner.
Stop wasting meagapixels thereby...
Giving you sharper images and
Less noticible noise.

If you watch jumpers in practice you'll notice right away which part of the bar they jump over which will help you with focusing. Another way to help with the focusing, which will be a bit of a problem with a longer lens, is to prefocus the camera on the part of the bar closest to you, (stay in auto focus) use only the center focus point (the AF is faster) and wait. Use the high speed motor (5fps), AI servo, and crank off 2-3 frames per jump.

You also might try to shoot from a higher angle. This picture/jumper might have looked better if you were on the blue-toppped training table which the girl is sitting on (right side of pic). I'm not sure a 120mm lens equiv would work from that distance but it would be worth checking out. Otherwise stay behind the landing mat but try to get the faces; back up use a longer lens and politely ask the kid to move a little to the right.

Ron is right about the faces and by your other posts I think you know that.

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Since you shoot so much low light stuff I would suggest looking to purchase a noise reduction program. The top two rated ones are Noise Ninja and NeatImage. Sports Illustrated uses Noise Ninja (that's a heck of an endorsement) but it is bit more expensive and the last time I checked NeatImage had a better support program (i.e. free updates). The results I've seen from both are just outstanding - a hugh decrease in chromaitc and luminance noise with almost no loss of sharpness and detail.
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 4:20 PM   #4
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Actually, I didn't submit this shot to the paper.

I put it out there cause I thought it was an interesting viewpoint other than the normal. I kinda liked the wide angle look, sorta panorama.

Actually, I was shooting with a 17-35 F2.8 lens.

Usually I use a 28-75 during indoor but I like to use different lenses different days to get different looks.

Actually, I kept the wide angle of the shot. I could have easily cropped it much tighter if I liked.

I used a little noise reduction on it within RAWSHOOTER, but I'm so used to shooting for black and white paper print (200 dpi) that I hardly notice the noise any more, nor do I see it as a critieria for a good shot, unless the noise is so bad it's halloween horrifying.

But it's interesting to note the reaction to this shot. I didn't think it would bring out too much of a reaction good or bad, but I think I got mostly bad. lol.

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Old Jan 13, 2006, 4:55 PM   #5
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OOPS !

I was just getting ready to jump on the band wagon when I realized you didn't ask
for critiques... We're not really supposed to critique here but you don't mind?

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No,I don't mind critiques.

Here's another shot.

I cropped away about 85 percent of the shot to get to this crop.

It was shot at ISO3200 using RAW format, and I applied FULL noise removal using RAWSHOOTER.




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terry@softreq.com wrote:
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No,I don't mind critiques.

Here's another shot.

I cropped away about 85 percent of the shot to get to this crop.

It was shot at ISO3200 using RAW format, and I applied FULL noise removal using RAWSHOOTER.
Well thats way to much to throw away. So whats this... A 100% crop. It's barely
a 1 MP picture left... I think your fear of cutting off body parts keeps your good shots from being great. Come on terry... Take a chance... Get in there... Take some tight shots.

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That's a nice..

Get a grip! lol

I was using a wide angle lens that day, so I took some wide angle shots.

Other day's I take a close ups, like when I'm carrying my 70-200 lens.

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