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Old May 17, 2007, 9:32 PM   #11
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And you still need ideas?? Ha ha ha It looks like you have a great market to sell to. My addition was probably useless, of course not knowing exactly what you do.

Do you place images in high traffic areas? For instance, take a hospital, or a doctor's waiting area. I only say this because I work in a hospital, where the traffic is constant, and in waiting rooms, where people usually wind up waiting longer than necessary (doctors offices).

I enjoy sports, so I invested in lenses, and decided to create a small business, which I am having fun with. I do use smugmug to show the galleries, and as I stated in the previous email, sell them to the parents. I try to improve with every event, or game, and give the coaches business cards to hand out to the parents. The majority of the galleries are password protected for the safety of the children, but the parents enjoy the pictures and I do sell images. I have created collages for people, photo art with images of their child, magazine covers and still trying to find other ways to sell images. It is a hobby, but I like it and am having fun doing it. I am not the best at it, but parents do like the pictures, and I am working at getting better. Here is the site.

http://www.inthezonephotos.com

I do work full time, and have a family, so when I can get to shoot a game, I try.

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We are to small and don't have any hospitals or doctors offices around where I live. But I think that is a good idea.

You said "It looks like you have a great market to sell to. My addition was probably useless, of course not knowing exactly what you do". I do have a pretty good thing going and the idea for the thread was to help give some other folks some ideas. I also am always looking for new ideas to try.

I went to your site and it looks to me like you got a real good thing going and I guess the longer you do it the more success you are going to have. Making a few extra bucks doing two things you love (sports & photography) that is way cooool. You done did and are doing gooood.


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Thanks for the compliment on the site. How about linking to other web sites from Photo groups, or businesses? Not sure how much traffic you would get, but it couldn't hurt. So a certain website gets alot of traffic, and there is a link directing them to your site where you can sell images from your gallery. Finding the right web site to link onto would be the key.

Your Osprey images are phenomenal, so why not find a website dedicated to bird watching, or birds of prey, or another aviary club, and work something out. For instance, if any image is sold through the website reference, you give them a kickback in a way of a donation to their cause ect... Keeps them going, and the more people that see your work, you never know who is seeing your images.

Just an idea.

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i've only just begun to look seriously at marketing my work, because it's only in the last 6-9 months that i've taken shots i feel are good enough. perhaps i'm too critical of my own work, but i've seen "the good stuff", and tend to judge my own work accordingly.

that said, i've sold a few prints, but had my best success selling LARGE prints of local scenery through a frame shop/gallery. for example, i've soldsome 20"x30" prints of Mt. Shuksan, and one 30x40 shot of the Seattle skyline at night. one of the prints of Mt. Shuksan was bought by a businessman from South Korea who wanted it to hang in his office back home. the gal who runs the gallery frames the photos and hangs them on display for me, and if she sells one, i make some money. i've also sold a few as a result of people seeing my work online, though most of those have been small prints, and i've not sold many.

of course, in an urban area the size of Seattle, there are a LOT of galleries, shops, and boutiques selling photos, so the competition is really stiff. my main goal for now is to simply get a little name recognition, which hopefully i can build on later. to help with that, i've had some cards printed up which i leave with various people to hand out to anyone interested in my work. they have my photo of Mt. Shuksan on them, with the text superimposed over that.

i've also found that, as Jeff said, most of those who buy photos are not interested in wildlife. they want pretty scenes, or some kind of "artsy" photos, not pictures of birds or beasties. the latter might be marketable to the right magazines or nature periodicals, but the average person just isn't interested. there are a lot of office buildings, of course, and hospitals and the like, that often hang photos in their lobbies, etc., and that's another place to look for potential sales. i've not yet really tapped into that market yet, but once i get a little more in my portfolio, i think i'll start approaching some of those people as well.

i knowa lot of photographers make money shooting people, weddings, babies, senior portraits and the like... i just can't do that. i don't like photographing people that much. i see people all day, every day, the last thing i want to do is take pictures of them, and then have to deal with them complaining about the zit on their chin that they forgot about, or having to mess with photos to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, so to speak... so i stick to nature and scenics. and since i don't need to make money at it, i can be choosy.
Rocky you just gave me an idea. It may be a good way to pay for a vacation.

1st draft, needs some work.

Take a laptop, printer and especially a camera and stop and take photos of cool scenery around a area you like. Make a slide show & then try and sell them to lodging establishments for re-sale in their rooms. You might be able to sell them off the slide show that you show them on your laptop. Gives them a way to make a few extra bucks and gives you some new customers. On most trips in between fun scenic areas there is a Walmart so you could keep a supply of frames ready so the sale is turnkey all they have to do is hang it and price it.


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Roger, i'm going on a trip this summer to the Oregon coast, specifically to photograph the seashore along a very scenic stretch of coastline. i'll be staying in a small, tourist town, and will, of course, have mylaptop with me. you may have hit on something there... show the innkeeper some photos of his town, the scenery in his area that peoplecome to see, and offer to make up some photos forhim to sell to folks who want to remember their trips!he gets a cut of the selling price, i make a bit of coin (and of course leave somecards for folks who might want a larger print, or whatever),andUncle Harold and Aunt Maude get a nice memento of their trip to take back to Nebraska! :G i've got a killer panoramic of the Oregon coast near Seaside/Cannon Beach - i could stop off there on my way home, perhaps check out a few gift shops and see if they'd be interested in selling a few prints... hmmmm... this is so crazy, it just might work! :lol:
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i've only just begun to look seriously at marketing my work, because it's only in the last 6-9 months that i've taken shots i feel are good enough. perhaps i'm too critical of my own work, but i've seen "the good stuff", and tend to judge my own work accordingly.
I agree with Rocky 100%... I think maybe 10% of what I take and keep is worthy, if you guys have any question about if you think your stuff is "good enough" go to: http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=3 or just http://www.naturescapes.netand go to the bird and wildlife or landscape forums and you'll soon realize where you stand in the bigger picture. This site is full of pro's and very good amatuers, I suggest lurking over there and learning from people who are very good!

I think a wide variety of options are good to show the consumer, but think that landscapes with great light and different angles are things that will put "your" image over the top. I recently went to the North Shore of Minnesota on lake Superior and came away with some shots... if you want to take a look, feel free. I have only put up nine shots so far from that visit, they are all of the top images in the file. http://www.pbase.com/mike_lentz/north_shore

Thats all I've got right now. :-)


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Thanks for the compliment on the site. How about linking to other web sites from Photo groups, or businesses? Not sure how much traffic you would get, but it couldn't hurt. So a certain website gets alot of traffic, and there is a link directing them to your site where you can sell images from your gallery. Finding the right web site to link onto would be the key.

Your Osprey images are phenomenal, so why not find a website dedicated to bird watching, or birds of prey, or another aviary club, and work something out. For instance, if any image is sold through the website reference, you give them a kickback in a way of a donation to their cause ect... Keeps them going, and the more people that see your work, you never know who is seeing your images.

Just an idea.

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Jeff search engines like cross links from simular sites. If you get a bunch of folks to link to you and you link to them with sites about photos you will gain in your rankings on the search engines.

Good idea on finding and working with some sites that specialize in animals you are taking photos of.

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Roger, i'm going on a trip this summer to the Oregon coast, specifically to photograph the seashore along a very scenic stretch of coastline. i'll be staying in a small, tourist town, and will, of course, have mylaptop with me. you may have hit on something there... show the innkeeper some photos of his town, the scenery in his area that peoplecome to see, and offer to make up some photos forhim to sell to folks who want to remember their trips!he gets a cut of the selling price, i make a bit of coin (and of course leave somecards for folks who might want a larger print, or whatever),andUncle Harold and Aunt Maude get a nice memento of their trip to take back to Nebraska! :G i've got a killer panoramic of the Oregon coast near Seaside/Cannon Beach - i could stop off there on my way home, perhaps check out a few gift shops and see if they'd be interested in selling a few prints... hmmmm... this is so crazy, it just might work! :lol:
Squirrel feel free to have them look at my hotel site. The photo tour shows the decorations we use are our photos and our original art posters, and they are for sale. Lodging folks like any body else are always looking for ways to make a few bucks and having thier decorations (Photos) available for sale may interest them. They have to have something in the room so it might as well be something for sale.


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i've only just begun to look seriously at marketing my work, because it's only in the last 6-9 months that i've taken shots i feel are good enough. perhaps i'm too critical of my own work, but i've seen "the good stuff", and tend to judge my own work accordingly.
I agree with Rocky 100%... I think maybe 10% of what I take and keep is worthy, if you guys have any question about if you think your stuff is "good enough" go to: http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=3 or just http://www.naturescapes.netand go to the bird and wildlife or landscape forums and you'll soon realize where you stand in the bigger picture. This site is full of pro's and very good amatuers, I suggest lurking over there and learning from people who are very good!

I think a wide variety of options are good to show the consumer, but think that landscapes with great light and different angles are things that will put "your" image over the top. I recently went to the North Shore of Minnesota on lake Superior and came away with some shots... if you want to take a look, feel free. I have only put up nine shots so far from that visit, they are all of the top images in the file. http://www.pbase.com/mike_lentz/north_shore

Thats all I've got right now. :-)

Beautiful scenic shots. You done did gooood. I have to believe that some business in that area would love to have some to sell.

Quality of photos??? This will probably get me flamed but I don't believe that is the number one priority. Why would I say this??? According to other photographers and a couple of pros that have been in as well as my choice and friends choices the photos we have chosen as the BEST are not the best sellers. I think the item of interest in the photo is the most important thing as far as selling them is concerned. Of course you have to have good photos but not necessarily your very best. An example: If people on our train trip see some elk while on the trip. When they get back they are looking at my elk photos, the super deer photo I have up by the tracks doesn't even get a second look. Just my opinion no more no less.


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the "quality" of an image, in the technical sense (i.e. tack sharp, perfectly exposed, etc.), is often overrated -except by photographers. many people who buy photos know next to nothing about photography; they just want a nice picture of where they spent their vacation or whatever. they will often prefer a well composed image over a technically superior, but less interesting shot. the trick is to combine the two. if you can get a well-composed, dramatic photo that is also sharp and well exposed, that's half the battle...
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the "quality" of an image, in the technical sense (i.e. tack sharp, perfectly exposed, etc.), is often overrated -except by photographers. many people who buy photos know next to nothing about photography; they just want a nice picture of where they spent their vacation or whatever. they will often prefer a well composed image over a technically superior, but less interesting shot. the trick is to combine the two. if you can get a well-composed, dramatic photo that is also sharp and well exposed, that's half the battle...
Rocky you and I are on the same page.

"many people who buy photos know next to nothing about photography; they just want a nice picture of where they spent their vacation or whatever"


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