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Old Jan 30, 2008, 3:02 PM   #1
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Difficult subject =Raven =Suggestions???

All black and Wacky roger just don't seem to want to get it together. On my way back from the woods lots of days I stop and try to get a good raven or crow and no question 98% of the time when I look at the photo I smile and delete it. I am going to keep these 3 just cuz my photo gallery needs a couple more Ravens.



I think he was laughing at me for trying again.



All right try again here is my best side.



I flipped one of the photos then converted it to gray tones to try and get a different look.



Here is the EXIF information
Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS-1D Mark III
Image Date: 2008:01:25 22:24:44
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 700.0mm
CCD Width: 28.12mm
Exposure Time: 0.0008 s (1/1250)
Aperture: f/8.0
ISO equiv: 400
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)

Any ideas or suggestions for different setting I could of used appreciated.


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Old Jan 30, 2008, 3:29 PM   #2
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I'd take those shots any day, Roger.
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Old Jan 30, 2008, 3:38 PM   #3
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I'd take those shots any day, Roger.
I am NOT unhappy with them in fact I have them in my photo gallery. I am always trying to improve my photos and especially since I am using a new set up. They are the best Ravins I have ever gotten but if there is a different setting I could of used so the next time they might be better then I would like to know.



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nice raven shots. in this situation you are going to do the opposite of what you did when you are trying to protect the white highlights. you need to overexpose a bit.

- use spot metering
- start at +2/3
- check your histogram and try to keep the graph more to the right
- adjust as needed.

your exposure is pretty good to start with so you probably will only need to adjust a bit.

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Reflective black (when klighting makes only some feathers reflect)is much more difficult toexpose forthan an eventextured matte surface. All are good, but I don't think anyone could do better than #1 - it is a real winner.
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I'd take those shots any day, Roger.
Thanks, I like them and I put them in my gallery but I am always looking for ideas to improve.



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royce10 wrote:
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nice raven shots. in this situation you are going to do the opposite of what you did when you are trying to protect the white highlights. you need to overexpose a bit.

- use spot metering
- start at +2/3
- check your histogram and try to keep the graph more to the right
- adjust as needed.

your exposure is pretty good to start with so you probably will only need to adjust a bit.

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Thanks Hung, I should of thought of that. Good idea I am going to try and remember that for next time.


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Reflective black (when klighting makes only some feathers reflect)is much more difficult toexpose forthan an eventextured matte surface. All are good, but I don't think anyone could do better than #1 - it is a real winner.
Thank you penolta.


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As a people photog I always prefer 3 light sources on dark skinned subjects.

This includes natural and room lighting and my flash in various mixtures.

It would be interesting to see what an off camera flash would do to the chest feathers dropping their shadows away from the camera a bit.

I like your shots as posted but black is always a challenge.

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Hey Roger, how about a little PP in CS2 to bring out the shadows? By the way nice shots!



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