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Old Jan 9, 2008, 6:26 AM   #1
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At the urging of a forum member over in Newb I am posting this here as well for you Xperts.

Some of you might know my recent plight with some bad burns/discs of some of my photos taken in Japan. In short, I originally thought I'd lost about 2000 photos. Thanks to some tips from the fine folks here I have salvaged many shots via using other computers and such. Thanks again. However, there are three days worth of photos that I still am unable to retrieve as I get that "cyclic redundancy check" error. As some suggested here, I have used programs like Genuine Fractals and Alien Skin to try to help salvage some photos. This has come with mixed results. Some tollerable…some utterly horrid. I suppose that is expected with what I am dealing with.

I have narrowed down a couple hundred photos down to 16 I just can't seem to fix. I have tried a few things and still the images come out poor. Now, I know this is expected with the low res I am dealing with but I thought as one last desperate attempt to salvage my photos I'd turn to the pros here for a little help. Posted below are the 15 photos. I need them to be 4x6 so they fit in an album. Any tweeking on all or some or even one image you folks can do to them would be most helpful and very, very appreciated.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o2BView2B9.jpg

2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o2BView2B8.jpg

3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_394132_9036.jpg


4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389346_2455.jpg


5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389213_4132.jpg


6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389211_3557.jpg


7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389201_656.jpg


8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389198_9861.jpg


9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...89084_9014.jpg

10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389075_6426.jpg


11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389074_6109.jpg


12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_389066_3511.jpg


13. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_362179_4727.jpg


14. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Viewaskewbian/Help/n724225243_362157_8655.jpg


15. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...and2BSteps.jpg


16.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...89205_1715.jpg
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 2:23 AM   #2
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I don't really understand what you are wanting.

Although all the pictures are low resolution the focus is good, the color is pretty decent, and there are no glaring blemishes. So, exactly what is it that is turning out so poorly? Are you unhappy with the original image or are you unhappy with the print after it has been developed? Are you wanting the colors to be different, or the resolution changed? Are you wanting something removed that is intruding into the frame?

If you are wanting a higher resolution then you're out of luck. There's no way to recover lost information. It might be possible to tweak it a little and improve the final image, but not bymuch. About the only thing that could be done is to turn it into an artsy, more abstract image so that the eye is drawn to the artfulness rather than the lack of resolution. And doing so would almost certainly ruin the original mood of the picture.

If others want to chime in they are more than welcome but that's my two cents on the topic.

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Old Jan 14, 2008, 1:08 PM   #3
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Hi,
Like Twicewise I don't see too much wrong with your pics. ...
If you just want to improve their pop factor ... I suggest you download the free version of DCenhancer from here ...
http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/enhancer.htm

here's a sample of what it can do for your pics. ... Jack

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Old Jan 16, 2008, 9:21 AM   #4
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Sorry, but these images don't look any where near "poor" to me. I would enjoy looking at these just the way they are in any photo album.
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 6:55 PM   #5
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MrGarmonbozia, since you first placed this post in the Newbie Help section, five people have offered to assist you and the last four posts have gone unanswered.

I did get a reply to my first reply and JimC answered your follow-up question to me in some detail. If you got enough out of JimC's answer to successfully tackle the problem yourself, then others would appreciate knowing this so that they aren't wasting their time trying to help with a problem that isn't a problem anymore.

And if the problem remains unresolved, then it seems to me to be in your best interest to help the people who are trying to help you by answering their questions.

My last offer still stands, but people need to know what the deal is.

Grant

Edit: Hey, Jachol, that utility looks interesting! Have to give it a look.
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Old Jan 17, 2008, 10:56 AM   #6
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Hi Grant,
By all means check it out always worth a look. There a few free useful items on that site, some are available as PS plug-ins, but not free. Hope you find something you like. ...Jack
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Sorry, folks, I am not meaning to be rude but being situated out here in a very small area of Japan makes my net access pretty limited at times. Allow me to thank you all for the great suggestions. When one loses 2000 photos of a year of Asian travel one like myself flounders for any solution possible. When rescuing the lost images on the defective discs failed it came down to editing and touching up and fixing and so I landed here. Your help has not gone unappreciated.

Twice: When I try to print the images in their current state as a 4X6 (or in Japan this is known as POSTCARD size as their normal prints are a touch smaller) you get artifacts and pixilization around edges in certain images like the ones listed above. My querry was regarding the best way to enlarge these to print 4X6 without getting these artifacts.

(As an aside here: I have been taken some suggestion here. I raise my resolution to 240 in PhotoShop which, in turn, raises the image size. I have been tweeking these artifacts and pixilization out with AlienSkin JPG Repair with mixed results but better then expected)

jachol: That program looks pretty neat. I'll give it a try. Thanks.

Spy: Thank you for the compliment. Again, though, they look slightly different when printed at 4X6 what with the pixal problems and such.

granthagen: For some reason I cannot access my old account anymore. I've tried to change passwords and such but no deal. Dealing with Japanese computers, servers and such has served me with many interesting online issues, this being just another. Thus I have not been able to access my private messages. I believe I did send you my email address before I could no longer log on with that name.

I wouldn't say the problem is unsolved but things are not as bleak as they were before joining here. Some images will come out distorted and I don't think there are ways to fix those. Others are working out better with the suggestions posted here. I will try to post some of my edits shortly for crtique.

Thanks all.
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Old Jan 20, 2008, 12:25 AM   #8
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Bummer about the connection problems. I thought that Japan was even better wired than the U.S.:? I sent you a pm with the following post, so one way way or the other you should get it.

Sorry, my man. I got a personal message from you thanking me for my suggestions, but I didn't see any email address.

If I have an address to send it to, I still have the first picture whose link you posted, changed to 240ppi and interpolated up to a document size of 4.5x6, and I'd be happy to send it to you to print. If it looks any better to you than the results you've gotten through other methods, I'll tell you exactly what I did to get that result.
Since your newest post said that you have access to Photoshop, there should no problem replicating my results.

You might want to do a web search on terms something like: photoshop stepped interpolation. You should be able to find a tutorial that tells you how to do this.
Stepped interpolation increases the size of an image by small amounts -- usually by 10% or less. Then you increase the size of that image by the same % and you keep on doing this, increasing a little at a time over many repetitions until you get the image size you want to print. For some reason, doing it that way has been known to give noticably better results than just upsizing to the target size in one shot.

That's not what I did, I just did it in one shot, but it's a technique that you might want to investigate. A tutorial on stepped interpolation will tell you how to set it up on photoshop so that all you have to do to upsize each step is push a button on your keyboard -- otherwise it would be quite a tedious process.

Good luck with your pix!

Grant

Edit: That is not the smiley I selected! Should have been the one with the ??? over its head. Tried a few times, but this one keeps butting in. Oh, well....

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Old Jan 20, 2008, 4:32 AM   #9
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OK,

I think I'm beginning to see what you're talking about. You want to just sharpen and clean them as much as possible in order to attempt a 4x6 print.

BTW, I had heard that Japan was wired to extremely fast Ethernet, and that almost everybody had something in the neighborhood of 3 MB per second download speed. So, was the news report wrong, or are you just in a rural area that doesn't have that kind of speed?

Below is what I was able to accomplish with the first picture. If it's something you would like to print off yourself PM me a email address and I'll send you the full sized file to print. I'm not sure that I was able to improve it much except to brighten the colors a little. Here it is, see what you think.


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