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Old Aug 22, 2010, 1:07 PM   #4
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Savannah, GA (USA)
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what i'm looking for is a canon ($300 as maximum) and no noisy photos
Add a zero ($3000 versus $300), and look at the Canon EOS-5D Mark II with a bright prime for starters (for example, a 50mm f/1.4). But, you can still get some noise with that kind of camera if ISO speeds are set high enough and light is very low. So, I'd also budget for a good external flash to use with it. ;-)

Your photos do not include EXIF information (a header in the image file that lets members see camera settings used). Without knowing more about the conditions you were shooting in, and what camera settings were used, it's hard to say what any issues are.

But, if you're looking at 100% crops (versus a downsized image like you'd normally use for web posting or printing), you can usually see some noise in underexposed areas of most images with most cameras if ISO speeds are higher. That first photo also looks like it's got some blur from camera shake adding to the problem; and the other crops you posted are underexposed (and noise is going to be worse in underexposed areas of an image).

Were you using a flash *and* making sure you were within the rated flash range for that camera? If not, you can expect some noise and blur from most smaller cameras like that if you're trying to shoot indoors, especially if you're zoomed in much (since the lens on that type of camera gets dimmer as you zoom in, requiring higher ISO speeds and slower shutter speeds for proper exposure if you're not using a flash; and reducing flash range if you are using a flash).

You're probably not going to get much helpful advise unless you can post some downsized images including camera settings used, versus posting crops from images you don't like.

IOW, changing camera models (like your comments from Sony models to your current Canon model) may not help anything at all; as most smaller Point and Shoot models from major manufacturers are going to have similar image quality in the same condtions. In the Canon Point and shoot lineup, as already suggested, look at the S90 (or in a bit larger camera with a hotshoe for an external flash, look at the G11), and you might see some improvement. But, you'll need to learn to live within any camera's limitations (usable ISO speeds for the lighting you're shooting in [for your desired print/viewing sizes], flash range limitations, etc.).

There are tradeoffs with any solution.

So, instead of jumping from camera to camera trying to find one that works better, you may want to post some downsized samples including camera settings used (aperture, iso speed, flash settinigs, etc.) and see what you may be able to do differently to get better images from a camera in your price range.

Cameras in your price range have very tiny sensors. The built in flash in a model that small can also leave something to be desired.

It sounds like you want dSLR performance in a pocketable camera at a budget price. ;-)

Yet, your earlier posts looking for a new camera indicated you were looking for a smaller camera for facebook photos. You can't expect great image quality at 100% viewing size from a small, pocketable P&S camera in all lighting condtions, especially if you're not using a flash or not within the camera's rated flash range.

It's all a matter of balance (with size, weight, cost and desired print/viewing sizes entering into the equation).

If you can bend on the budget and size requirements some, you may want to look at an entry level dSLR model, adding an external flash to it for use in lower light (so you can bounce it for more even and diffused lighting).

But, don't expect to get great photos without some work on your end, understanding how the camera settings influence results, especially in tough lighting conditions.

There are tradeoffs with any solution.
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