thanks. i have seen the panasonic and it is a nice camera. unfortunately for me it crosses the size threshold of "too big for a cargo pocket." If I went that route I'd seriously consider one of the SLRs instead.
its too bad...so many great features but not all on one camera. heck, i would love a focus-assist lamp that most canons have (not the s1) and the night vision modes in the new sony camera (but only a 4x zoom).
that canon s1 1s is so cheap now perhaps i should just get that. thing is, i'm waiting for the 4mp version of it with a few improvements that would surely come along with it.
oy. tough indeed.