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Old Jun 7, 2006, 12:48 PM   #1
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hi everyone
i have a panasonic FZ20, really a lovely camera. but its not that good for macro shots.:roll:
so i decided to buy a macro add-on lens. but there's allmost no information on the internet, nor are there any good comparisons, just tables full of useless info.

what i want to know is if someone here has some experience with an msn-200 or msn-500 RAYNOX lens or a dcr-250 RAYNOX lens.
and wich one is worth getting for good macro's
i must add that i dont like chromical abberation (purple fringing to some), and distrotion. (call me a whiner :P )

thanks in advance :?
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Old Jun 7, 2006, 4:58 PM   #2
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Well... those are multiple element lenses so they shouldn't cause much chromatic aberration.

That MSN-200 is for really small objects and useless for normal macros.
And looks like chromatic aberration is extreme when it's this much in heavily downsized image:
http://www.raynox.co.jp/actualimage/...00-diamond.jpg

DCR250 causes much smaller CA. (/amplifies that of cameras lens)
http://www.raynox.co.jp/comparison/d...10.htm#dcr-150
Also it's meant for use in tele end. Would have been nice if they would have marked size of captured area... I think you don't want lense just for macro of very small objects.



There's also cheap one element close up lenses, after +4 diopter those start increasing CA and corner softness heavily... but already that +4 should give considerable magnification in tele end.


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i must add that i dont like chromical abberation (purple fringing to some), and distrotion. (call me a whiner :P )
Why? I call that as accurate observation.


"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
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Old Jun 8, 2006, 5:24 AM   #3
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For FZ20 Raynox DCR250 gives 11x9mm image size at max telephoto setting, magnification x6.9 and working distance is 110mm. The info is taken from their site:

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/...exdcr250eg.htm

Sample images are here:

http://www.raynox.co.jp/comparison/d...10.htm#dcr-150

DOF is quite shallow and focusing is difficult, even more so with Raynox MSN-200 Macro lens.

HTH

I'm thinking about buying this DCR250 lens for my Fuji S9500.
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Old Jun 8, 2006, 6:20 AM   #4
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I am the happy owner of Raynox DCR-150 and DCR-250, and a not so happy owner of the MSN-500.

To give an idea about the magnifications:

DCR-150: a (large) bee fills the entire frame
DCR-250: a fly
MSN-500: a (small) ant

DOF is ok for the DCR-150, you can capture an entire insect in focus. DCR-250 only half an insect , MSN-500 ... forget it.
If you don't have tons of patience or do not want to carry around a tripod all the time, I recommend the DCR-150. DCR-250 takes you a step further but at the cost of much more usability problems.

Don't know very much about image quality, looks fine to me and it is already quite hard to get the composition right.
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Old Jun 8, 2006, 7:49 AM   #5
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thanks for the great comments you guys.
i was doubting allot but you helped me choose so i bought a dcr-250.
i'll post some shots when its delivered.

and thanks again for the good help\

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you and mr. shaw are both right
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Old Jun 10, 2006, 7:29 AM   #6
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aaah i love this lens!
thanks again for the great advice:-)
i still need to practise allot, but here are the first few shots.

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 4:22 PM   #7
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Nice pictures there. Umm, the nikon 4t/6t lenses are great too. The diopter strength on those are +2.9 so it's a little less the raynox lenses but it's for sure a good lens to start with.
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