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Old May 30, 2007, 6:43 AM   #11
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Yes, thank you, Hercules, for some very interesting views. Those walls certainly would deter sappers from trying to pull them down!

I notice that many of the blocks are of conglomerate. Does anyone know the quarries from which this stonecame?
Thanks for your appreciation Barbarian, as far as pulling them down good luck those things are gigantic in person, now where the conglomerate came i don't really know, but just figure back then on how the heck they built those things with no machinery what so ever, everything by hand
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Old May 30, 2007, 6:57 AM   #12
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Refreshing our knowledge, making it tangible. Thanks, hercules.

Nice family you have

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Torgny thanks for the nice reply The ruins of the mycenaean acropolis themselves are awesome. The inspiring lions gate take you inside of the acropolis, and a steep path leads the climb through several ancient buildings and pathways, towards the palace where Agamemnon was murdered by his wife and her lover after he returned victorious from the trogan war. One of the most impressive features of the citadel is the grave circle A which contains six royal shaft graves. It is located just inside the Lion Gates to the right, with the angular designs of all the other adjasent structures. A great number of Kterismata (objects buried alongside the dead)and gold death masks were found in this grave site and they are now located at the Archaeological museum in Athens. All that remains today of the acropolis are the building foundations that outline the ancient palace quarters, and the immense wall that crowns the top of the hill.
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Old May 30, 2007, 7:11 AM   #13
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Dear Hercules,

No sooner had I asked for the Mycenean citadels, I received the images above!

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I'm glad too...but for some other reasons!

which hints to the presence of a serious threataround the the time of actual construction. However, despite the immense fortifications the 'civilization founders' of the Greek peninsula lost against flow of tribes from the north, probably due to their recent siege of Troy, which must have exhausted them, although once Mycenae was famous for exporting mercenaries!

Know o Hercules that among these invasivetribes were the Dorians, whom the Spartans considered as their ancestors!

This shock of invasion waves brought a dark period for almost five centuries during which even literacy almostvanished! .....until the 8th BC distinct with the start of Olympic games to start the chronology again!

The early settlers who escaped this turmoul settled on the littoral zones of Anatolia, were to be called Ionians.Some remainedthough, in and around Athens whose language was unintelligable for the new comers...

So that was also a part of our shared story, my friend,whose pictures you shot including your lovely kids...

Yes those blocks were huge and i'm 1,87 in hight. though i could of took more pictures of them, i don't know why i didn't my friend thank you for your kind words and appreciation
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Is there any truth to the story about the spartan messenger who showed his courage (stóa) or what it should be called, when he stood in front of the king and had a fox under his "shirt" ...

Do you recognize this story. Sorry I don´t remember much more

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Is there any truth to the story about the spartan messenger who showed his courage (stóa) or what it should be called, when he stood in front of the king and had a fox under his "shirt" ...

Do you recognize this story. Sorry I don´t remember much more

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You know i have read that as well, but it's back to my books as i can't remember thanks for bringing that up
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Thanks anyhow. Should you come across... (smile)

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The fox? It has to do with the fact that young boys were drafted into groups kept apart from their parents, and fed very little. They were therefore expected to steal in order to survive, but were severely punished if incompetent enough to get caught.

The story goes that a boy, having stolen a fox, had hidden it beneath his clothes, and allowed it to gnaw him, rather than admit failure. He died later of his wounds.


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The fox? It has to do with the fact that young boys were drafted into groups kept apart from their parents, and fed very little. They were therefore expected to steal in order to survive, but were severely punished if incompetent enough to get caught.

The story goes that a boy, having stolen a fox, had hidden it beneath his clothes, and allowed it to gnaw him, rather than admit failure. He died later of his wounds.

Yes that is right thanks for refreshing my memory Barbarian
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Great shots hercules, lovely looking family too.
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Great shots hercules, lovely looking family too.
Thank you alex
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