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Bynx · Dec 13, 2012, 12:14 PM

Real interesting story behind this plane. After a few were built they were considered too advanced and were destroyed. These are a couple of scale models in the Canadian Air Museum. I placed them where they belong.

Bynx · Dec 13, 2012, 12:18 PM

Here is the original situation.

selvin · Dec 13, 2012, 12:42 PM

Bynx,

Based on your comments did a bit of research and was fascinated by the history behind the ARROW. It's history was a colourful as it dramatic design for that era.

Great post processing job.

bobbert · Dec 13, 2012, 3:23 PM

Great masking and extraction, and great final result!

The history of this plane is fascinating indeed. A friend of mine, Joanne Crabtree, a singer and songwriter in Toronto wrote a song about it...

http://www.joannecrabtree.com/crabtr...20to%20Fly.mp3

Bynx · Dec 13, 2012, 11:36 PM

That was a really good song Bob. Only line I resent was the repetitive line .... It took a lot to bring the Arrow down. It didnt take much at all, just an execution order from then Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. In hind sight Im glad they terminated the project. However, the total destruction of the protoypes, models, blueprints and photos was a really stupid thing to do. That was tax payers money they used to build them. They should have been disabled to keep the technology secret, but not completely destroyed. That was on the order of John Diefenbaker. Its a shame he is buried out of province, because I would like to have made it a yearly pilgrimage to the cemetery to urinate on his grave. There hasnt been a Prime Minister in my lifetime that disgusted me more. And thats really saying something considering the bozos we have had leading this country.

One aerial photograph of the destruction of the completed Arrows taken by a newspaper reporter who chartered a small plane to fly over the Avro plant in the days after cancellation.

MVASteve · Dec 14, 2012, 12:19 AM

Good work! Agree, they look very cool where they should be!

Curmudgeon · Dec 14, 2012, 12:40 AM

Bynx,

Interesting story on the plane. Such a shame how it ended. Certainly sounds like there is more to it than is printed.

One comment on the PP job. It is very nice but the planes need heat/exhaust trails out the back of the engines. Not sure how I would do that but I think you are better at PP than I am.

Bynx · Dec 14, 2012, 1:15 AM

Exhaust trails.....hmmmm, I never thought of that. Thanks Bill.

zig-123 · Dec 14, 2012, 5:25 AM

Wonderful post processing. You got me staring at it.

vsch1 · Dec 14, 2012, 8:00 AM

Well done. And thank you to everyone who particitpated in the discussion about these planes. Very interesting.

Dec 13, 2012, 12:14 PM	#1
Bynx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East of Toronto Posts: 8,800	Avro Arrow -- the Sky was the limit Real interesting story behind this plane. After a few were built they were considered too advanced and were destroyed. These are a couple of scale models in the Canadian Air Museum. I placed them where they belong. Attached Images

Dec 13, 2012, 12:18 PM	#2
Bynx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East of Toronto Posts: 8,800	Here is the original situation. Attached Images

Dec 13, 2012, 3:23 PM	#4
bobbert Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 600	Great masking and extraction, and great final result! The history of this plane is fascinating indeed. A friend of mine, Joanne Crabtree, a singer and songwriter in Toronto wrote a song about it... http://www.joannecrabtree.com/crabtr...20to%20Fly.mp3 __________________ Bob B www.pbase.com/bbernstein Olympus OMD EM-1

Dec 13, 2012, 11:36 PM	#5
Bynx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East of Toronto Posts: 8,800	That was a really good song Bob. Only line I resent was the repetitive line .... It took a lot to bring the Arrow down. It didnt take much at all, just an execution order from then Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. In hind sight Im glad they terminated the project. However, the total destruction of the protoypes, models, blueprints and photos was a really stupid thing to do. That was tax payers money they used to build them. They should have been disabled to keep the technology secret, but not completely destroyed. That was on the order of John Diefenbaker. Its a shame he is buried out of province, because I would like to have made it a yearly pilgrimage to the cemetery to urinate on his grave. There hasnt been a Prime Minister in my lifetime that disgusted me more. And thats really saying something considering the bozos we have had leading this country. One aerial photograph of the destruction of the completed Arrows taken by a newspaper reporter who chartered a small plane to fly over the Avro plant in the days after cancellation. Attached Images Last edited by Bynx; Dec 13, 2012 at 11:42 PM.

Dec 14, 2012, 12:40 AM	#7
Curmudgeon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: East Bay, San Francisco, CA Posts: 889	Bynx, Interesting story on the plane. Such a shame how it ended. Certainly sounds like there is more to it than is printed. One comment on the PP job. It is very nice but the planes need heat/exhaust trails out the back of the engines. Not sure how I would do that but I think you are better at PP than I am. __________________ Cheers, Bill http://www.wcmphotography.com/ http://wcmphotography1.blogspot.com/

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Dec 13, 2012, 12:42 PM	#3
selvin Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,204	Bynx, Based on your comments did a bit of research and was fascinated by the history behind the ARROW. It's history was a colourful as it dramatic design for that era. Great post processing job.

Dec 14, 2012, 12:19 AM	#6
MVASteve Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 793	Good work! Agree, they look very cool where they should be!

Dec 14, 2012, 1:15 AM	#8
Bynx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East of Toronto Posts: 8,800	Exhaust trails.....hmmmm, I never thought of that. Thanks Bill.

Dec 14, 2012, 5:25 AM	#9
zig-123 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cape Cod, Massachusetts Posts: 5,191	Wonderful post processing. You got me staring at it. __________________ http://scortoncreekgallery.smugmug.com/ So you want to be a better photographer? Open your eyes and take a look at what is all around you.

Dec 14, 2012, 8:00 AM	#10
vsch1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,885	Well done. And thank you to everyone who particitpated in the discussion about these planes. Very interesting.

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