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Walter C · Sep 16, 2006, 6:18 PM

Our flower arrangement for the Fourth of July this year. Canon 20D, EF 35 f2

Tullio · Sep 16, 2006, 6:27 PM

May I steal your idea? My sonhas a few 4th of July teddy bears...I haven't thought of them!

Walter C · Sep 16, 2006, 8:15 PM

Tullio, be my guest. Actually, it was my wife's creation.

calr · Sep 17, 2006, 2:42 PM

This scene is cute but I need to do some research on the ethics of using the stars and stripes for clothing or other objects. For now, I am accepting it (I like it) but I am going to find out what the official rule is.

Cal

I just did my research and found the following paragraphs from the flag code which seem to be applicable:

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free.

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

For what it's worth...

Walter C · Sep 17, 2006, 4:03 PM

Horay for Cal

The patriot's pal

He'll keep us all in line

Perhaps he'll nag

Protecting the flag

Just so we don't malign

Between each word

I think I heard

Some action you've suggested

So, right away

I'll call today

And have my bear arrested

PS – there may be a monetary reward for helping to put that common hairy criminal behind bars. :-)

Tullio · Sep 18, 2006, 12:12 AM

OK, there is a flag code with many paragraphs by the looks of it. But the reality of it is, the flag is used andprinted everywhere. My son has a couple of tee-shirts with the American flag stamped right on the chest. We had American flag-painted candies for 4th of July along with a couple of teddy bears my son named Mr. and Mrs. America. We bought my son a scarf that is knitted likethe American flag.

I'd argue that Walter's picture does not qualifybecause itdoes not include a "flag" per say but the flag's colors and stars. Other than that, it's a cute setup.

jbarrick · Sep 18, 2006, 6:49 PM

I think they are being a little tuff on your wife Walter. A lot of thought and work went into setting this seen up.

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:27 PM	#2
Tullio Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,370	May I steal your idea? My sonhas a few 4th of July teddy bears...I haven't thought of them!

Sep 16, 2006, 8:15 PM	#3
Walter C Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Posts: 7,846	Tullio, be my guest. Actually, it was my wife's creation.

Sep 17, 2006, 2:42 PM	#4
calr Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 8,466	This scene is cute but I need to do some research on the ethics of using the stars and stripes for clothing or other objects. For now, I am accepting it (I like it) but I am going to find out what the official rule is. Cal I just did my research and found the following paragraphs from the flag code which seem to be applicable: (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart. For what it's worth...

Sep 17, 2006, 4:03 PM	#5
Walter C Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Posts: 7,846	Horay for Cal The patriot's pal He'll keep us all in line Perhaps he'll nag Protecting the flag Just so we don't malign Between each word I think I heard Some action you've suggested So, right away I'll call today And have my bear arrested PS – there may be a monetary reward for helping to put that common hairy criminal behind bars. :-)

Sep 18, 2006, 12:12 AM	#6
Tullio Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,370	OK, there is a flag code with many paragraphs by the looks of it. But the reality of it is, the flag is used andprinted everywhere. My son has a couple of tee-shirts with the American flag stamped right on the chest. We had American flag-painted candies for 4th of July along with a couple of teddy bears my son named Mr. and Mrs. America. We bought my son a scarf that is knitted likethe American flag. I'd argue that Walter's picture does not qualifybecause itdoes not include a "flag" per say but the flag's colors and stars. Other than that, it's a cute setup.

Sep 18, 2006, 6:49 PM	#7
jbarrick Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 963	I think they are being a little tuff on your wife Walter. A lot of thought and work went into setting this seen up. __________________ Jeff Canon S2IS & Sony VCL-DH1758 Tele Lens