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Old Aug 20, 2003, 6:38 PM   #11
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NHL, the press-release says it has the same number of AF points as the 10D. "Utilizing the same 7-point AF sensor found on the top-rated EOS 10D model ...."

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Old Aug 20, 2003, 8:55 PM   #12
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Why'd they go and make it silver?
Any serious camera is usually black (or at least some
shade of black).

There's something about silver digital cameras that
always says 'beware' to me. Especially plastic bodied
cameras with *plastic lens mounts*. Yikes!
(Maybe Canon invented 'case-hardened' plastic now? :-) )

But, this is *great news* as far as a price break-point,
though I'll never own/buy another silver-colored-plastic-
based camera again. Even my old CP990 is metal and built
like a rock. Plastic will always be that...plastic.

The "Lens Kit" thing is also strange to me.
Why can't the lens that comes with this camera
be used on other Canon EF mount cameras? Another
warning flag, IMO.

I hope that this shakes up the other manufacturers
cuz' Canon will sell a ton at that price, tho
I won't be one to buy it. The Canon D10 is what I'm
still saving my scheckles for (or the new Sony 828, tho
I swore I'd never buy a Sony before seing Steve's
review prior to this week).
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Old Aug 20, 2003, 9:08 PM   #13
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Why'd they go and make it silver? Any serious camera is usually black (or at least some shade of black).
... So they can charge more for black (look @ the D7i and D7Hi)?

Almost all modern cameras are actually made of polycarbonate and have been proven to be quite reliable too... One wouldn't mind the plastic if it's light for that mountain hike (my current gripe with dSLRs). The more expensive and well proven Nikon D100 is not metal either!


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The "Lens Kit" thing is also strange to me. Why can't the lens that comes with this camera be used on other Canon EF mount cameras?
IMO it can be used on the 10D as well... This lens won't work on a full-frame or film camera since they have a larger image circle, but with a similar size 1.6x it should be fine. This is no different than the Nikon 'digital' AF-S lenses... (I guess?), and applying the same logic as the 4/3 system to size the lens for the smaller CCD/sensor! 8)
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Old Aug 20, 2003, 9:47 PM   #14
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Almost all modern cameras are actually made of polycarbonate and have been proven to be quite reliable too... One wouldn't mind the plastic if it's light for that mountain hike (my current gripe with dSLRs), the more expensive and well proven Nikon D100 is not metal either!
I didn't know that the Nikon D100 was also plastic based.
Thanks for that info!
I use a digi-cam for professional work combined with hobby
picture taking, and after using both plastic and metal bodied
digi-cams, nothing beats metal for "feel" in my hands. Plastic
creaks and is too light in my experience (non dSLR). We
both know about the Agfa 1680....
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Obviously you have never held a D100? It feels great in your hands and modern polycarbonate plastic is as tough and substantial as metal. In some instances a plastic bodied camera will survive g-shocks better than metal bodied cameras. Metal dents and transmits the g-shock, plastic will absorb some of the impact force and often doesn't crack or break. I really doubt that the EOS 300D will feel "cheap" in your hands, Canon just doesn't make cameras like that.

8/23/2003 update: We now have a 300D in-house and it feels very solid in your hand. As expected, Canon has another winner here -- look out Mr Nikon! :shock:

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Old Aug 21, 2003, 5:54 AM   #16
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well being relatively new to digital photography, and just plain photography fot that metter. i have to say WOW this camera is certainly going to change some things, namly the 'intro to dSLR' market so that people who want to get into it dont have to jump in the deep end in terms of cost and equipment. i cant wait to read some reviews of it either. i think that, as people have said, compareing it to the 10D is wrong as its not really in that part of the market its actually creating a new market which hopefully will catch on and we can see more camera in the 'intro to dSLR' market which wont be as costly as the ones out now.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 12:59 AM   #17
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The "Lens Kit" thing is also strange to me.
Why can't the lens that comes with this camera
be used on other Canon EF mount cameras? Another
warning flag, IMO.

The EF-S lenses cannot be used on any other Canon camera, digital or film. It has a shorter than normal back focus distance and only the DigiRebel's special mirror design will clear it. The digiRebel can use any Canon EF lens.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 7:50 AM   #18
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The way I see it is this kit is designed to fend off all-in-one camera like the A1, E10/20, F828 and the like... most serious photographers will go for the bare body...

It's like having a $100 rebate toward another decent lens (and it could even be from others than Canon)!
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The 10D is available for 25% off list. Will the 300 be the same, (I come up with $675 w/o lens)?

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The $999 (w/lens) and $899 (body only) prices are the estimated street prices, not suggested retail. Don't look for any discount anytime soon, they will sell briskly at this price for many months to come!

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