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Old Aug 25, 2003, 2:23 PM   #1
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Default 10D and 20-35 lens is twice as much as 300D and 18-55 lens?

I finally figured out why a lot of people (including me) are excited about the 300D/Digital Rebel kit.

Why spend $1500 for the 10D then ~$100 (all lens prices from the cheap online stores like B&H and Adorama) for a 22-55 F4/5.6 (that isn't listed on Canons site, so is it still being made?) when the 300D kit is $1000? The cheapest wide angle zoom listed on Canons lens list is the 20-35 F3.5/4.5 for ~$350.

The 300D kit plus a nice zoom like the 70-200 F4L for ~650 and the 50 F1.8 II for ~100 sounds like a nice range of quality lenses (hopefully the 18-55 is decent, Canon says it's as good as the popular 28-135 right?) for almost the same price as the 10D body alone. Tempting.

I played around with a Rebel Ti the other day. It seemed solid, sure it was plastic but not too cheap. I'm sure next to the 10D it would look even cheaper, but by itself it was OK. What really matters is the pictures, and the 300D should get shots like the 10D, maybe even better because you can get better glass with what you saved (I know, it's Canons trap: cheap body, expensive accessories).
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Old Aug 25, 2003, 3:57 PM   #2
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Except for the two inexpensive AF-S lenses, the choice of lenses for both the 300D and the 10D are the same! The price difference should be only limited to the body, since both camera will take the same lenses...You can go with the best Canon has to offer which is their 'L' series or their standard line for less...

In between there's a variety of lenses from 3rd party like Tamron, Tokina. Theses manufacturers also offer a choice: their best (ie more expensive), and their cheaper regular lenses as well. For example the Sigma EX 17-35mm f/2.8-4 which I have is also ultrasonic and is priced quite reasonably!

One shot here is from the Canon's EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM and the other is the Sigma.
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Didn't Canon say somewhere that the new 18-55 lens will be as good as the popular 28-135 IS? I can't seem to find where they said it, does anyone else remember where it was?

Also, aren't there possible problems with third party lenses on Canon cameras?

I'd like an updated 10D with EF-S mount for $1,200 or less. Thanks.
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Old Aug 26, 2003, 5:21 AM   #4
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Didn't Canon say somewhere that the new 18-55 lens will be as good as the popular 28-135 IS? I can't seem to find where they said it, does anyone else remember where it was?
It's two different animals:
1. The 18-55 is in effect a 28-90mm zoom with the 1.6x factor; whereas the 28-135 IS is equivalent to a 45-216mm, ie twice the reach (with less of a wide).
2. Other than the common plastic material the two lens are different in other ways as well. The 28-135 has an Image Stabilization (IS) system to compensate for camera shake, and this lens also has an USM ultrasonic drive. This translates to a faster and quieter AF focusing which you can instantly overide without having to switch over to manual first like on the 18-55!

BTW did anyone notice the different mounting reference mark on the camera for the AF-S as compared to the regular EF lenses (ie @ an angle instead of the 12 o'clock position)?

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Also, aren't there possible problems with third party lenses on Canon cameras?
I have two excellents third party lenses that I'm very pleased with and they also featured ultrasonic drives. Beside they are actually made out of metal for the barrel, which with a few exception you're not going to find on the standard Canon's, but only in their more expensive 'L' line! :lol:

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