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Old Nov 25, 2007, 6:19 PM   #1
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I'm in the market for a new Canon DSLR and have found myself with some interesting options. Looking for advice from the crowd on which way to go. I'm looking for a good setup for taking mostly family pictures. Probably will end up being a combination of indoor and outdoor, medium zoom. Just general all purpose camera. I won't be printing above 8x10, so I probably don't need a ton of resolution. My budget is around $1,000.

After alot of research, I had pretty much narrowed myself into an XTI w/ a 17-85mm IS lens. However, after talking to my father, I was given another option to take his hand me down D60 for free and spend the money on a better lens like an "L".

So my question is which option is better? Based on today's specs, the XTI seems to be alot more camera than the D60, but if I invest my money in better glass would that end up being a better overall solution. So with the right glass, how would a D60 stack up against an XTI these days? Where would the D60 fall short, and where could better glass compensate? Thoughts?

Options:
1) Spend $1,000 on Rebel XTI + 17-85mm IS
2) Spend $1,000 on Canon D60 (Free) + 24-70mm f/2.8 L (~$1,000)

Thanks for the help!

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Old Nov 25, 2007, 9:53 PM   #2
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I'd probably go with the free camera and then save up for the 40D.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 2:34 AM   #3
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Tricky one.

The XTI is much nicer in many ways. Not sure I'd go for the 24-70 as my only lens on a crop camera either.

If I had to choose between the two combinations you've given I think I'd go for #1.

But I might be tempted by the 60D + 17-40L + cash left over.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 8:34 AM   #4
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I won't be sway by the 24-70mm f/2.8L, granted it's a great lens, but not the sharpest one out there even for an L.

-> An EFS 17-55 f/2.8 might be more convincing even if it doesn't have a red ring...
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 7:13 PM   #5
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Myself, I was choosing between the XTi and the S5is and after trying both, I went with the S5is hands down.

Why?

By the time you spend thousands of dollars getting the lenses that has the S5is range, 35-432, you'll need a backpack to lug it around.
I refuse to carry all the bulk you have to with an DSLR and their bulky lenses.
Unless your a Sports PRO and make a living doing that... there is NO need to pack around all that luggage!
I'm a pro as I do digital & webmaster work for a living and this camera works fine for me.
I did well enough with the Sony H1 that I had the past 2 years.
Bottom line is IF you know how to use the camera many features, you can match any SLR photo.
You know... Your photos are only as good as the person behind the lense!
I LOVE this S5is camera!
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 9:15 PM   #6
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Go with the XTi and the EFS 17-55mm lens. You won't go wrong.

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Old Nov 27, 2007, 1:24 AM   #7
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D60, 17-40 L or tamron 17-50, or even the canon 17-85 and an external flash. Even 18-125 or thte new 18-200 is a good option with D60 and a flash

in my opinion the D60 is a really good camera capable to push ISO to 800(analogous to ISO500 in newer camerasmay be)..

but with a flash the noise will be barely noticeable at even ISO 800. Save for an XTi or even the 40d

A tidbit-----20D in used market is currently going for less than 450 dollars.

20D + 18-200 + a flash would be deadly and still under 1000 dollars or alteast very close to 1000 dollars.

ISO 1600 on a 20D IS very usuable.



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Old Nov 27, 2007, 1:10 PM   #8
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Canon just changed the ballgame.

XTI + new 18-55 IS.

Holy smoke that's an incredible lens for $180.
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notably strong barrel distortions at 18mm and very high vignetting at 18mm @ f/3.5. Chromatic aberrations are well controlled at the extreme ends of the zoom range but quite pronounced around 28mm.
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...56is/index.htm

So, you've got a relatively dim lens (f/3.5-5.6), with a limited focal range (18-55mm), with vignetting unless stopped down, and strong barrel distortion on the wide end, and pronounced CA by the time you zoom into 28mm with it. ;-)

OK, sharpness may be better than average, and it's got stablization and it's inexpensive. But, I wouldn't call it the lens of the year or Canon changing the ballgame.

I don't see anything in the samples that makes me think color and contrast is anything super either (but, I haven't looked for any others taken in better conditions yet).

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So, you've got a relatively dim lens (f/3.5-5.6), with a limited focal range (18-55mm), with vignetting unless stopped down, and strong barrel distortion on the wide end, and pronounced CA by the time you zoom into 28mm with it. ;-)
Believe it or not this lens is actually quite close to the higher priced 17-55 f/2.8 in both vignetting and CA, or even beats it in some areas...

-> For what it costs its surely is a bargain - Wonder if folks might still carry their 50 f/1.8 anymore with a lens like this?
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