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Old Dec 30, 2007, 3:50 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I am seriously looking at buying a DSLR Camera.

I live in Beijing and the shooting opportunities are too great not to do something about it.

I am currently very attracted by the canon EOD 40D... But I was looking at lenses and am facing difficulties to find the right combinations.

Also I don't havean unlimited budget...

I am looking for a good to very good walk around lens, cause I can't buy 2 good lenses with my current budget, and I prefer to focus only ongood quality stuff.

I noticed the :
  • EF-S 17-55 F/2.8 IS USM
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Itseems to be a great lens but it is not very long. I was wondering if that could be a problem since I would only have that one lens in a first time.

The second lens I noticed is:
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Seems very good but this time it is not that wide.

In your experience, do you think that I should rather opt for a longer lens rather than a wider lens?

If you have any good recommendations - in term of lenses or even cameras - please do not hesitate.

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Old Dec 30, 2007, 7:58 AM   #2
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For a cropped camera such as the 40D you really want a 'digital' lens such as the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8

-> The 'digital' lenses are optimized for the smaller sensor as their projection hit the image sensor at a more direct angle resulting in less internal reflection, higher contrast and better MTF as well as smaller and lighter design:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...5_28/index.htm
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In your experience, do you think that I should rather opt for a longer lens rather than a wider lens?
-> 24mm is really not very wide on a 40D and you can always get more 'tele' by cropping, but @ the wide you can't really add what you haven't capture in the 1st place!
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Old Dec 30, 2007, 8:05 AM   #3
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Just got a 40D, great camera!!

I carry three lenses with me now matter where I go, 17-40 f4, 28-70 f2, and 70-200 f4 IS. That way I got something for most situations, 17-40 for somewhat wide shot, 28-70 for indoor, and 70-200 for longer range. If I'm only able to carry one i take the 28-70.

A good choice if you want only one lens would be the 24-105 IS or if you don't mind carriying multiples, get a 70-200 to go along with the kit glass.
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Old Dec 30, 2007, 8:36 AM   #4
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Also I don't havean unlimited budget...

I am looking for a good to very good walk around lens, cause I can't buy 2 good lenses with my current budget, and I prefer to focus only ongood quality stuff.
You may want to compare the EF-S17-55 F/2.8 IS USM against the EF 17-40 F/4L as well:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...5_28/index.htm
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...40_4/index.htm

1. Even when closed down to f/5.6 the L is not as sharp as the 17-55 @ f/2.8
2. The distortion are higher on the L than the 17-55
3. The 17-55 does vignette more @ f/2.8, but at f/4 it'll hold its own against the 17-40 as well

-> You can only buy one lens - IMO the EF-s 17-55 IS USM is a no brainer!
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Old Dec 30, 2007, 11:56 AM   #5
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I agree. It is after all the equivalent to a 27-88 mm lens on a FF camera.

When I had the 20D I used the 17-85, but that was long before the 17-55 f2.8 was released.

To me 24-xx or 28-xx is just not a good focal length for a single lens on the crop, it's nowhere near wide enough.

But what about if you upgrade the camera to FF? Well if you keep the 40D you will still have the best lens for it, and if you sell the camera then sell the lens too.

I also like the way you think about where to spend the money. It seems to make sense if you can to most of your money into the lens which will receive the most use. So the 17-55 f2.8 certainly gets my vote.


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Old Dec 30, 2007, 1:23 PM   #6
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why not the 18-55 IS lens and 50mm price and 85mm f1.8 prime

It still comes 200 less than the two other lens's


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Old Jan 2, 2008, 4:12 PM   #7
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Thank you all!

That's a nice input here!

Will let you know when I buy it how it feels...

Cheers,


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Old Jan 4, 2008, 2:51 PM   #8
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I just got my Canon 40D a few weeks ago Right now I'm using the 17-85 3.5 USM lens with auto focus. Which for me is a great all around working lens until I can save up for another one to complment it. But remember I said for me, its a great lens. Thats my little 2 cents
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I'm not a Canon user - I'm just visiting to check things out. I read the review of the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8 IS USM at http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/17-55mm.htm

This review seems to suggest that the kit lens is a better choice for most people. Is this a widespread opinion within the Canon community? Is anyone here using the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8 IS USM? What are your impressions?


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FrankD wrote:
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http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/17-55mm.htm

This review seems to suggest that the kit lens is a better choice for most people. Is this a widespread opinion within the Canon community? Is anyone here using the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8 IS USM? What are your impressions?
This just goes on to prove how good the new 'kit' lens is

However I still believe the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8 IS USM does have its own niche for someone who value a larger f/2.8 aperture as the 'kit' lens is also not perfect as the cheaper lens shows strong barrel distortions as well as high vignetting and CA at some focal range:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...56is/index.htm

-> In fact the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8 IS USM is actually quite good in theses areas as compare to the competing Nikon AF-S 17-55 f/2.8 G IF-ED which costs several hundred $ more (without VR) and shows a higher distortion @ the WA as well as more vignetting and CA:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...5_28/index.htm
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