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Old Aug 31, 2009, 9:06 AM   #11
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Actually, it looks like B&H and Adorama are both sold out of the A900 right now (as are most dealers). ;-)
I can see why: If you don't need the high-ISO then this is the lowest cost platform with probably the best IQ combined with the best 24-70 f/2.8 there is

IMO they did their homework and saw a huge competitive advantage in their FF with in-body IS and no lens line to protect against:
-> Excellent 3rd party FF lenses like the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 or the 70mm f/2.8 now have IS only with the Sony
-> and for anyone requiring L-grade there's always the Carl Zeiss as this is just another OEM (but with IS)
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I guess it's doing well in the US, but in the UK I don't think it's selling much.

All the high street stores have long waiting lists for Canon 5D2's but the A900 is available everywhere. Even stranger is that the relative price for the 5D2 is much higher in the UK too because it gets hit with a lot of EU tax because of the video feature.

UK prices for the 5D2 are 2050 and the A900 is only 1650. But the Sony is not selling.

Actually I would happily get the A900 or A850 - but there are no lenses available in A mount that I am interested in. Not even one. :-(

I have limited experience of the Sigma lenses, but the ones I have tried have been horrible.
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Actually I would happily get the A900 or A850 - but there are no lenses available in A mount that I am interested in. Not even one. :-(
Yes - I can see that if you are after the f/1.2 which Nikon do not have either (because of the larger EOS mount not requiring the AF screw)

However if you are doing studio or landscape both the CZ 24-70 f/2.8 and 16-35 f/2.8 outclass the Canon's L. The old Minolta 85 f/1.4 G (now CZ) also have one of the better bokeh... all with IS in the body however
But then one can use a different focal lenght - for example a Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 for portrait which have a much smoother bokeh (@ 300) and compression than my old EF 85 1.2L also now with the IS in the body also




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Even stranger is that the relative price for the 5D2 is much higher in the UK too because it gets hit with a lot of EU tax because of the video feature.
I guess this is one of Sony archilee's heel as they have a large Professional Video division which they must protect !!!

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Actually I would be perfectly happy if they just made the ZE 21/25/28mm and 50mm lenses for the A-mount. Ideally the 50 Macro Planar, but the standard Planar would do. If they could do them with AF that would be even better.

That's all I need - a decent wide angle and a 50 that is superb at f2.

Unfortunatley the Sony 28 & 50 seem to be fairly horrible, certainly not up to the demands of a 24Mp sensor.

Also the 5D2 is 2-3 stops better than the A900 at the high end, which pretty much negates the advantage of the in-body IS.

I can understand why they would first concentrate on getting the zooms sorted out.

As a studio/landscape camera the A900 is fantastic and would most likely be my first choice.
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Sony does have two excellent wide angles: The 20 f/2.8 or the 35 f/1.4 G which is their L equivalent both with circular aperture

I already have a 50mm Minolta but would definitely get the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX which is best 50mm in this class and superb @ f/2:
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/..._c16/page2.asp

Also don't forget the outstanding Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135 f/1.8 - They are just different FL from Canon's...

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Sharpness on test results doesn't mean you'll get the quality you want either (bokeh, color, contrast, etc.). Sometimes a lens that's terrific on test results has bad bokeh. For example, I've seen people with a lot more expertise in lens design than I'll ever have point out poor bokeh from some of the the Carl Zeiss and Leica 50mm lenses that are very sharp "edge to edge" on test results. Sometimes a lens that is not as sharp in the corners has more pleasing bokeh.

If you want good bokeh, look at something like the Minolta (or Sony) 135mm STF (Soft Transition Focus) lens. My Minolta 100mm f/2 is pretty darn good, too. I think NHL has the Minolta 85mm f/1.4G, and I've seen comments from Sony dSLR owners that prefer it's bokeh over the new CZ 85mm f/1.4 (even though the CZ may test better on MTF Charts).

My budget doesn't permit a lot of expensive primes. I use a Minolta 28mm f/2, 50mm f/1.7, 100mm f/2, and 135mm f/2.8 right now for primes; and I really don't see how I could do much better than my 100mm f/2 in any lens for what I look for in image quality (where the images have an almost 3D look to them).
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