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Old Feb 22, 2011, 11:01 AM   #11
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I shoot a 7D and plan to get get the 24-105 L later this year to replace my 28-135. People will say that the range is not suitable for a crop frame camera but only you can determine if you need wider than the 24mm. I have found that I would like to go a little wider than my 28, but when I had the kit lens I found I would never go that wide (18). Steven
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Old Feb 22, 2011, 7:54 PM   #12
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I can see a difference in the photo quality between the 18-55 and the better lenses - 17-55 and 24-105. I can't tell a difference between the 17-55 and 24-105 in IQ. Are these qualities measurable?

I've seen the 'blur index' from slrgear.com, but those results don't appear to support the conclusion that the 24-105 is better than the 18-55. But I can see it for myself in the photos.

Given the dust-proof L construction and the greater range, the 24-105 has the advantage as long as I can live with a 38mm lens at the wide end. Or keep the 18-55 in the bag so I can get to 29mm equiv.
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 2:58 AM   #13
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IMHO its shows the 18-55 can take really nice shots I would find it hard to choose looking at those links.
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Old Feb 23, 2011, 11:39 AM   #14
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Wave01 - I understand your point. All of those photos were good, but when I looked at some architectural shots, the details seemed more clear with the better lenses. It's like they operate at different resolutions. That sounds crazy, but it's what I'm starting to see.

I can get nice shots with my 18-55 too, but the better lenses seem to have a clarity I can't match.
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Finished work now and had a closer look to me the 24 -105 looks the best the images seem to pop more. But as I said I was taken with the images of the 18-55, I think people should look at what can be done with that lens its not bad for what is a kit lens.
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Man, that flicker link has 84033 images for 18-55mm lens and 185576 images for 24-105mm lens!
If I can get images like those, I don't need new lens right now.
It may take me forever to go through those pics.
That additional pop from 24-105mm is great, but the price also is $100 vs $1100.
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Old Feb 26, 2011, 7:14 AM   #17
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That additional pop from 24-105mm is great, but the price also is $100 vs $1100.
Yeah, that. But I have a wedding shoot to prepare for. I'm approaching paralysis by analysis. It'd be an easy decision to grab an L lens if the 18-55 was marginal, but the kit lens does well. At the same time, the professional photogs are not flocking to the kit lens over the L series, so I'm guessing there is a true benefit to the upgrade.

Sounds like I am trying to talk myself into something, doesn't it?

At the same time, I am heeding Mark1616's advice and I'm working on the technique. I've been learning volumes through study and practice for flash technique. I haven't exactly mastered composition yet, but I'm getting better at finding my angles. I should start blitzing the C&C section for input in those regards.
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Few things to consider on purchasing L lenses:
1. They are expensive for a reason; quality, fast, crisp etc...
2. They hold their value very well for used. I've seen used listed for almost same as new.
So, if you can afford and a big event such as wedding is calling, go for it. That way at least, you removed inferior lens from the equation.
But for me, since I just started DSLRing... I need to hone my skills more on other parts as composition, aperture, exposure etc...
Since the kit lens produces amazing pictures that look professional, it's my skill that needs improvement first.
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I'm planning on posting a summary of lessons learned, having shot the wedding last weekend, but since you ask... I bought the 24-105 and love it! The 105mm was perfect on my crop body for all the alter shots while I was in the back row (70mm would not have reached far enough). The 24mm end was also very useful. I did have to use my kit lens for wider views, but that accounted for 12 out of 1200 shots that day (and it wasn't truly wide enough either).

The focus accuracy and speed are much appreciated, and while f4 isn't the fastest out there, the constant f4 was quite helpful.

I'll ramble on later when I have more time.
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