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Old May 15, 2005, 9:18 PM   #1
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Hi, guys I really need some advice I'm filling half and half between the XT and 20D I have some things in the middle that stop me

1) XT grip, filling to small for my hand but price is good 861.00 free shipping

2) shutter speed 1/4000 (20d 1/8000)

3) 20D expensive 1359.00 with lens 18-55mm

4) almost same the XT just couple differences , shutter speed, continuos shoot, and

ISO. I thiink nothing more. and 500.00 difference from XT

5) XT remote control, I think 20D don't

I really can't see some thing that convince me go for one camera or the other, can some budy give an idea??

thanks in advance:??:??

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Old May 17, 2005, 3:31 PM   #2
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#1 is the most important thing to look for, how it feels in your hand, the build quality.

The shutter speed differance won't matter much, you won't be shooting at 1/4000 unless you are at a race track.

The 5 fps is nice if you shoot action shots.
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Old May 17, 2005, 3:54 PM   #3
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Like the other poster said, I would suggest going to your local store (if possible) where you can hold both the 350 and the 20D in your own hands and see how they feel.

When I was deciding between 300D and 10D, the feel/finish on the 10D was much better to me as compared to the 300D.Also I shoot mainly birds so higher fps on 10D was important. And 300D was too limiting in what could be done in different modes.

Now ith 350XT and 20D, they have narrowed the difference between the 2 cams. But 20D still has much better built quality as compared to 350 (I just took a look at the local store during lunch time, it still got cheap plastic look/feel), this is just me, maybe you don't care. But if you shoot action, you would like higher fps on the 20D.

20D has the remote control mention.


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Old May 17, 2005, 9:04 PM   #4
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The 20D has ISO 3200 whereas the XT's highest ISO is 1600. If you shoot a lot of low light pictures this could affect your decision.

I heard the 20D has better image quality than the XT. Sounds like they "detuned" the 20D's sensor for the XT.

The 20D has a stronger body (alloy) versus XT (polycarbonate), althought the XT is smaller and lighter than the 20D.

The 20D has more professional controls than the XT. The XT's button/menulayout is borrowed from the original Rebel D-SLR.

The 20D is at least $400 more expensive than the XT.

They are both very good cameras. I would classify the XT as a serious amateur camera and the 20D as a semi-pro camera.

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Old May 17, 2005, 9:28 PM   #5
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AMATHEU wrote:
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1) XT grip, filling to small for my hand but price is good 861.00 free shipping

2) shutter speed 1/4000 (20d 1/8000)

3) 20D expensive 1359.00 with lens 18-55mm

4) almost same the XT just couple differences , shutter speed, continuos shoot, and

5) XT remote control, I think 20D don't
1. If your going to be holding onto the camera for a long time this is a major decision. Spend as much as you can if a good photo means alot to you.

2. On my new lens (sigma 70-200 f2.8EX) i could definatly use 1/8000. Most of the shots i take come out well at 1/4000 so the extra speed could help.

3. It is more expensive because of the features Terry outlined.

4. Continuous shooting is a big problem on the XT, ive used the 20d and its fast enough for most situations. The ISO goes up to 3200 which can be useful.

5. 20D has a remote, just a different one.


My opinion - Sit with $1500 in your bank account and every night, wait on eBay for something which is perfect to pop up. I got my 300d (with 18/55) for a steal price $1050AU ($600US) brand new.

Then on my bday on Friday, some guy put up a Sigma 70-200 f2.8EX for $600. I went down to his home, picked it up and got a 2.0 EX for $150 more.

All you have to do is have patience; and an eBay account

If you can, get the 20d, even second hand.
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Old May 18, 2005, 2:37 AM   #6
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List of 20D advantagesbelow cribbed from another forum:

Body: Magnesium vs. polycarbonate with steel subframe
Frames per second: 5 vs. 3
Autofocus: 9 point with high-accuracy sensor vs. 7 point
RAW buffer: 6 vs 4 frames
JPEG buffer: 21-23 vs 14 frames
Max shutter speed: 1/8000s vs 1/4000s
Flash synch speed: 1/250s vs.1/200s
Sensor MP: 8.2 vs. 8.0
ISO: 3200 vs 1600
LCD pixels: 118,000 vs. 115,000
Viewfinder magnification: 0.9 vs 0.8
Custom functions: more vs less
20D has a pentaprismfor brighter clearer VF
AF faster than on 350
Heavier than 350 (350 might be unbalanced with long/heavy lenses, especially when using it without the battery grip)




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Old May 18, 2005, 12:20 PM   #7
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Hi, guys thanks everybudy that give me the advice, but I read to late, I ready expecting the XT today I order from BUYDIG.COM terrific people, I order only two days ago and I pay 14.00 shipping (two days) really good place, I going to try and if I filling bad I think I going to return and put the 428.00 difference for buy the 20D, I most like take landscape, sunseat, birds, flowers, and family portrait. I use the original lens (I have before 300D) 18-55mm and signa 28-300mm (I pay 219.00 at fotodiscount club, I get god price for that lens) and I plane to buy a 2X converter.

thanks again everybudy.
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2. On my new lens (sigma 70-200 f2.8EX) i could definatly use 1/8000. Most of the shots i take come out well at 1/4000 so the extra speed could help.
What kind of light you taking the shots tha requires 1/4000 or higher most of the time? You know you can always use lower ISO.
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Old May 21, 2005, 4:34 PM   #9
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Thanks to everybody, I just had for couple days the Rebel XT, nice camera, and great pictures, but filling bad in my hand, to small, I just can hold with two fingers, and the finger for the shooter uncomfortable, so I call the place where I purchase and they going to replace for the 20D (difference charge) but I went over Circuit city and, is different how you filling with the 20D, the noise from the shooter is nice, the auto-focus point is nice and fast and the most important, you can hold the entire grip with the hand. so I think now I can sleep in peace ( I had 3 or 4 days thinking in all the pros and cons, and the time pass they only give yo 10 for return or exchange,)

thanks to everybody. I think XT is for small hands and lens (when I put the Sigma 28-300 was terrible to hold that camera.


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Old May 21, 2005, 4:48 PM   #10
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what can of remote use the 20D IR or different, anybody know the part number??

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