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Old Aug 17, 2006, 9:07 AM   #1
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Hi Guys,

I was about to buy an eos20d on ebay as I see quite a few of them going for sensible prices, but then a friend of a friend has offered me an Eos 1D original for the same sort of money.

My question is this, would the 1d be a better camera even though it is only 4.75MP(i think), but it has a bigger sensor and seems a more professional camera, or is it a case of technology moving on and this old camera simply being outdone by newer lower-end models?

Also, anyone know of any restrictions on flashes or lenses available for the 1d??



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Old Aug 17, 2006, 10:23 AM   #2
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I don't know of any restrictions on flashes or lenses available for the 1d.

If you need 8fps, really good AF in AI servo mode then get 1d. Otherwise, I would get 20D.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 2:43 PM   #3
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I don't know of any restrictions on flashes or lenses available for the 1d.

Well the lens restriction would be it can't use EF-S lenses since it's a 1.3 crop sensor. Beyond that i have no idea how the performance of the original 1d would stack up against the 20d.
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It's still an 8fps camera with the better 45 points AF (and weather sealing): http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_...non_eos1d.html

-> Just the sensor if you can live with 11x14 enlargement (but one can always up-samples)
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well if you are talking about a 1D Mark II that is one thing, but if you are talking about the original1D it is a 4MP camera and does not have 8.5 frames per second as the new 1D Mark IIn does. Ifthe camerathat your friend has is in fact the newer 1DMark II n I would bebreakinghis arm trying to get it away from him for the price of a 20D. That is about a $4000camera compaired to a$1200 or less 20D.
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Old Aug 17, 2006, 9:29 PM   #6
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... but if you are talking about the original1D it is a 4MP camera and does not have 8.5 frames per second as the new 1D Mark IIn does.
The original 1D MrkI is still very fast @ 8 fps (check the above link) or here:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_...d_compare.html

-> It also has a high shutter speed of 1/16000s whereas the MrkII only goes to 1/8000s - You probably meant the 1Ds MrkI which did not have the speed because of the full-frame...

BTW the old 1D MrkI can also x-sync @ 1/500s which is twice as fast as the 1D MrkII !!!
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Actually if anyone can get hold of a used 1Ds (i.e. MrkI), which has the same 3fps burst rate as the 5D, at a good deal that's also an excellent buy...

At 11+ Mpixels it's comparable to the 5D in resolution, but you are gaining all theses series-1 features:

o The faster and more precise 45 AF points
o A weather sealed body
o A 2nd EV scale for flash (or multi-spots metering)
o Changeable viewing screen
o Built-in hand grip with 2nd shutter release
-> and a much longer lasting NiMh battery!
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I don't know of any restrictions on flashes or lenses available for the 1d.
Well the lens restriction would be it can't use EF-S lenses since it's a 1.3 crop sensor. Beyond that i have no idea how the performance of the original 1d would stack up against the 20d.
Sorry, forgot about the EFS lenses.


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... but if you are talking about the original1D it is a 4MP camera and does not have 8.5 frames per second as the new 1D Mark IIn does.
The original 1D MrkI is still very fast @ 8 fps (check the above link) or here:
The 1D I'm talking is not the mark I, just 1D and itis 4mp and 3fps burst speed, but still a lot of other pro features including a weather sealed body. The original post didn't mention it being amark I so this is the one I assumed he was refering to "http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EOS1D2/E1DA.HTM
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...the old 1D MrkI can also x-sync @ 1/500s which is twice as fast as the 1D MrkII !!!
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Ahhh, just like the leaf shutter lenses on my old Mamiya RB67.
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