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Old Nov 10, 2007, 4:52 PM   #1
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I have a Canon xt with the 18-55 kit, the canon 28-105 3.5-4.5, canon 50mm 1.8 and the sigma 70-300 1.4-5.6

My question is would I be better off to get a better lense like the sigma 18-50 2.8 or the sigma 17-70 or buy the canon 430 ex to better my indoor family shots. I have not been happy with my indoorpics. They are either to dark or have a yellow cast to them. My canon A710 is takes better indoor shots but the flash recycle time just kills me.

Are there any other lenses I should consider for indoor family shots in the $400.00 or under range? You guys have been helpful in my past choices so I was hoping you could steer me in the right direction.

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Old Nov 10, 2007, 6:36 PM   #2
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i bet the flash is a better option here...and most of the family pictures ur taking about needs peoples face to be in focus and visible. With an external flash u can achieve this..

In even demanding light situations a flash saves a moment. Even a 50f1.2 or the 85f1.2 will not save the moment if the ligh situation was demanding.


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Old Nov 10, 2007, 7:18 PM   #3
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I agree completely. A flash will definitely give you better results. Available light photos can be nice, but you still have to have enough light and even when you do, sometimes you want more than one person to be in focus (which you won't get shooting 1.8 or 1.4). Using a bounced external flash definitely gives you more bang for the buck in family situations.
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Thank you for your help. Now another question. Should I get the canon 430 ex new or buy a used canon 420 from a friend? The kit lense is really my only option for indoors to get the wide angle. Are there any other ones out there under $300.00 that would be any better?

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Old Nov 10, 2007, 8:07 PM   #5
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besides the 430ex there is the sigma 500dg super. More powerful plus manual controls but lesser build quality. It's the flash I'm using and it's good accept for the build quality issue. But the extra power output is nice.
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Old Nov 10, 2007, 8:37 PM   #6
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Thank you for your help. Now another question. Should I get the canon 430 ex new or buy a used canon 420 from a friend? The kit lense is really my only option for indoors to get the wide angle. Are there any other ones out there under $300.00 that would be any better?
Do not buy a 420EX - Unlike the 430EX it is an automatic flash only and have limited control over +/- flash compensation. The 420EX also does not have a built-in diffuser for the WA or for up-close shot. The 420 and the 430EX are still a "slave" only flash i.e. they can not control other flashes... You need a 550/580EX for this

The Sigma EF 500DG Super is both a "Master" and "Slaves" and can control other Canon flashes wirelessly. It's about the same price as the 430 but is more powerful with a GN of 50 vs 43 for the 430EX and has features more akin to the 550/580EX series
Actually Sigma has an upgrade to this flash the EF 530DG Super which is slighly more powerful @ GN53: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/flashes/fl...ls.asp?id=3263


-> If you can afford it this is probably the best flash on the market @ this time (with dual-heads):
http://photo.box.sk/news.php3?id=10247
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Iv'e read good things about the sigma and like that it has more power and is a slave as well as master but it seems more complicated than the 430. I still have a lot to learn but with three young children I just need something simple thatI can start using.
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Sigma also has a "de-featured" version in the "ST" instead of the Super for less but is still quite powerful:
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/flashes/fl...ls.asp?id=3266

If you're comfortable with the Canon by all means - You only need the extra power once you start bouncing depending on the distance to walls/ceilings...
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I have a 430ex with the kit lens on an XT. They seem to work well shooting the kids around the house.
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NHL wrote:Is this upgrade for power only or it is improving build quality or any other features as well? I tried to figure this out but can't find this info.

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