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Old Aug 6, 2008, 6:43 PM   #1
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I wish my 70-200L were longer for indoors but a 2X teleconverter would make it too dark. I need the wide aperture. I'm in no position to buy a long Canon Prime 2.8 lens, so I do the best I can with 200mm.

I was, (still perhaps will) going to buy a 2X TC for my 70-200. Even though I lose a couple stops, it would be fine for outdoors.
But I got to thinking, is there an affordable lens that would be good for outdoors instead? I'm thinking maybe 400mm or so. It doesn't need to be terribly fast.
Might be better than stacking the 2X on top of a lens. Although an "affordable" lens might be less sharp than the 70-200 with 2X
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Old Aug 6, 2008, 7:24 PM   #2
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Do you have a good tripod which would help for a non-IS len?
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Old Aug 6, 2008, 7:28 PM   #3
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I saw this; Sigma, 50-500 f4-6.3
The price isn't bad for such a monster lens. The reviews on B and H are pretty positive for the most part.
http://tinyurl.com/5q47bh

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Old Aug 6, 2008, 7:30 PM   #4
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Yes, I took the plunge on a sweet Manfrotto Carbon fiber.
I used it last weekend, with a 3130 head it worked wonderfully.
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Old Aug 6, 2008, 8:45 PM   #5
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I wish my 70-200L were longer for indoors but it is what it is. I really need the f2.8, and can't afford (and don't want to haul around) a Canon Prime 400mm f 2.0

I"m looking at a lens for outdoor shooting, I do primarily dog agility. Think small fast moving targets. I need a fast lens indoors, but outdoors with natural light a slower lens should be fine.
I have a good manfrotto carbon fiber tripod. I used it extensively last weekend with the 70-200, it worked very well.

I'm looking at a Sigma 50-500 from B & H. So far, I've read mostly positive reviews. Of course, as with everything, your mileage may vary, but the trend seems to be positive.
This is the lens I'm looking at.
http://tinyurl.com/5p8yfg

Canon has an L series 400 mm f 5.6, but I hesitate to get that big of a prime since if I need a shorter focal length, say a jump is right in front of me, I'm out of luck.

Any suggestions?




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The key question is outdoor what? Sports, wildlife, candid people shots etc etc.

Without that info there is no point suggesting anything as it might be completely wrong for the requirement.
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Do you have a good tripod which would help for a non-IS len?
IS/a tripod might help outdoors(or indoors for that matter)but again it will depend on the application of the lens. I use by 120-300 indoors for shooting some gym events and as I need the mobility I can't use a mono or tripod. As for outdoors the shooting I do is mainly high shutter speed so again no tripod needed, although with the 120-300 I often opt for amono-pod to save the arms after a while. Not so important with the 70-200 but still a good option.
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Sorry, I forgot that information. I photograph dog agility, dogs running over jumps, through tunnels, etc.
Fast moving. It's tough indoors, I got a Canon 70-200 f 2.8 L so I could get some reach with a fairly fast lens.
It's not as critical outside, there's usually plenty of light. That's why I'm looking at the Sigma Bigma (50-500)
John G also suggested that I look at the Sigma 100-300 f4

Here's a picture I took a couple weeks ago in Helena. It turned out alright, but I'd like to be able to frame it closer.



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That helps. The Sigma 100-300 f4 is certainly a great lens and it takes a 1.4x TC really well giving stronger results than the 70-200mm f.28 options with a2x TC (and is slightly longer at 420mm.

I was looking at this lens as an option but was fortunate enough to get the 120-300mm 2.8 Sigma.

I've not use the 50-500 but from what I've seen and read from users it's quality drops off over the 400mm range so you are not gaining much. Oh I should point out the 100-300mm f4 is one of the sharpest lenses produced by Sigma giving almost a prime rather than zoom quality.

I should just add thought that it is possible to get some nice results with the 70-200mm f2.8 and 2x TC combo and at a lot less then getting a new lent. Yes AF is slower, yes the quality is knocked down a bit but we are still talking stronger results then the users of 70-300mm f4-5.6 lenses are getting (apart from possibly the Canon 70-300mm IS). I would try and borrow a 2x TC first and see how it goes, you might be surprised, you might be disappointed, but you won't know unless you try.

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I've merged this with your other thread so you don't get duplicate posts and people can see what has been said already.
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