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Old Nov 18, 2010, 7:12 AM   #1
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This follows on somewhat from my previous thread new 100 L Macro v 135L for portraits, assuming for the moment that I choose the 100 - which is the way I am leaning. Wherever I reference the 100 below it could turn out to be the 135 instead.

As I am now starting to do some paid work, and mindful of Mark's experience where his LENS died, rather than his camera, it makes sense to have a backup option on the lens as well as the camera side of the equation.

My main lens in most circumstances is (will be) my 50mm f1.4 for both portrait and documentary wedding work. But of course my other lens on the 5D2 is the 24-105 L which I will happily use where the prime is too restrictive. I could easily switch to the 24-105 if my 50 died. But how to cover the rest of the range if my 24-105 died, like Mark's did?

I want to stick with FF lenses so that I can use them on the 5D2. As a backup body I think I will probably just get hold of a 1000D (290 new), or use my film body. [In time, and if I really start to make some money, I'll get a 5D3 or 1DMkIV+35L.]

Options for lenses:
1. Supplement with primes: 28 f1.8 + 100 f2.8 L Macro. (350 + 700 = 1050)
2. Supplement with Tamron 28-75 f2.8. (Almost totally a backup solution, I can't really see myself using this lens over my 24-105.) (350)
3. Supplement with 24-70 f2.8 L. (But one of the lenses will doubtless end up being my favourite, pretty sure the 24-105, leaving the other mostly unused.) (930)

I like option #1 the most because I tend to prefer primes when I have the option of moving my feet. I just find I take better pictures for some reason. Also I will then be using all my lenses creatively depending on the circumstances, rather than just having one lens that sits around as a pure backup. I like the shallow DOF options that the primes give me, and have missed my 28 f1.8 since I sold it. I also like the idea of having the 1000D + 28 f1.8 as a backup to the 5D2 + 50 f1.4.

Cost-wise however #2 leaps out as the cheapest by far - though only if I don't get the 100 L anyway.

Watcha think?

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Old Nov 18, 2010, 7:04 PM   #2
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I don't know, but would like to know as after getting my Sigma 24-70 shipped out to cover my dead Canon 24-105 I couldn't bring myself to use it as it just wasn't sharp enough on the 5DmkII. It was always acceptable on the 5D but with the extra pixels this is no longer the case. I actually shot the last wedding with the Sigma 17-70 on the 7D as main camera combo and apart from not being able to have great shallow dof it served well.

I'm interested to know more real world info on the Tamron re sharpness compared to the Sigma, if it as sharp as I would hope then that might work for me, otherwise I'm looking prime as well. I like the idea of the 28mm f1.8 but corner sharpness looks to be a pain when used wider, how did you find it on the 5DmkII, have you got any samples you can ping over at some point?

I really want to go either 24 or 35mm f1.4 in the future as well as Sigma 50mm f1.5 and possibly 135mm f2 L which I thing would be sweeeet!

OK, so I didn't answer anything for you, but hopefully we can both get our questions answered in one hit.

Oh, what work are you getting into?
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Old Nov 18, 2010, 7:40 PM   #3
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Craig.

I like option #1 as well, since it serves as more than simply a backup. And since you seem to like working with the primes anyway, if you had to use it to backup the 24-105, i don't think you would feel encumbered.

I have not used my 28 1.8 on full frame, so I am not sure how the corners will hold up with that demanding of a cam. i do sort of expect canon to redo either it or the 35 f2. or something like a 30mm to replace both. but that is just rumormill and supposition.
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Old Nov 19, 2010, 3:21 AM   #4
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I think the prime route will be best.

I personally think that a really good lens designer cares more about how good the OOF bokeh is wide open than how sharp a lens is. Especially in the corners. Sharpness is a subjective perception, and in a picture where lots of things are OOF anything that is in focus appears sharp, even if the actual MTF-50 value is quite low.

One reason I think the 50 1.2 gets a bum rap. The bokeh is simply incredible, but you take that at the expense of overall sharpness, and particularly corner sharpness wide open.

So the 28 f1.8 - not sharp wide open, and I don't care, when shooting wide open I usually don't want the corners sharp, and always have to add back in vignetting if LR or DXO takes it out. Stopped down of course is a different story, there I do want corner sharpness for landscape-type work. The 28 f1.8 has very nice bokeh.

However I have never used it on a 5D2, I sold it shortly after getting my 5D.

My most fervent wish is that Canon would make some slow L lenses:
20 f4 L
24 f2.8 L
35 f2 L
50 f2 L

Main aim - excellent optics and small and light, not compromised by the need for speed. With L build quality, L coatings, L USM, etc. And half the price of the fast lenses. Ain't gonna happen though. :-(

But we might get lucky with an update of the 35 f2. Just improving it to the same standard as the 28 f1.8 and 85 f1.8 would be fine. Also we might get an improved 50 f1.4. Hope so.
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Oh, what work are you getting into?
Well I have been asked to do some portraits and a wedding next year.

I love taking pictures of children, so I might try to specialise a bit in family portraits. Plus of course weddings, but even though it's a bit cliched now I still like documentary style wedding. I think the market will move more towards a "high fashion" look, I think my style suits the documentary genre far more. Also I'm not at all sure that the "high fashion" wedding style is going to age very well. Will people really be that happy with their pictures 10 years from now? Documentary photography is timeless, even though perhaps not as popular at the moment.

Maybe we could hook up to do some wedding shoots. If you get something where you would like a backup then I'll come along. You can have the commercials on the images, as long as I can use them for my portfolio. :-)
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