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Old Feb 20, 2005, 5:05 PM   #11
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I would recommend that you should 1st buy EF 85mm f 1.8 ($340). It is the best bang for money and beeeeaautiful. Will work great for portraits. Prime is always worth it!!!

After this you can buy 70-200 f4... super sharp travel lens ($580)

Depending on your love for wide angle.... get 17-40L ($680) or Tamron 12-24 ($550)

If you go for Tamron, then you might want Tamron 28-75 f2.8 ($350) as well. You dont need this if you are going for the 17-40L.



Later on you can build on this kit- get a macro of focal length of abt 100mm (or if u really love macro then go for mp-e 65mm.

Other lenses you can add are: 135 f2.8 SF, 70-200f2.8 IS (heavy). A 500D for your 70-200.

Have fun.... you are lucky to have ur wife by your side it all these expenditures!
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Old Feb 20, 2005, 5:10 PM   #12
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Another advice is that instead of going for teh 20D... hang on a bit and you might want to go for the 350D (will be in market in Apr)... it will probably be about $800... so you can put the money you saved into quality lenses. 350D has the same chip as 20D... so will have very little noise (as compared to 10D and 300D) and is 8Mpix

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"Value of digital cameras falls very fast... but value of lenses is way more stable. Therefore invest in best lenses, and average cameras.
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Old Feb 20, 2005, 5:30 PM   #13
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I have the Tamron 28-75 f28 and it is a very good lens. Not sure about the Sigma, it may have the hypersonic motor which would make it focus much faster.

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Anyone care to comment on the relative pros and cons of the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 vs. the Tamron 28-75 f2.8?

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Old Feb 21, 2005, 4:16 AM   #14
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Thanks for the help here. It's definately opened my eyes to better possibilities than I had been thinking.

Anyone care to comment on the relative pros and cons of the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 vs. the Tamron 28-75 f2.8?

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Depends on whether you're getting the wide zoom or not, and which end you'd rather have the zoom of what will probably be the lens that spends the most time on your camera.

24-70mm *1.6 = 38-112
28-75mm *1.6 = 45-120

Optically they're very similar i.e. both excellent. (I'm talking about the new EX DG Macro version of the Sigma.)

For me personally I'd rather have the extra bit at the wide angle.

Do have a look at the 350D - but it won't be out yet for a little while, and although we have no reviews yet it doesn't look like it has the same chip as the 20D, they seem to be slightly different. No reviews yet so can't say better or worse.
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Old Feb 21, 2005, 7:15 AM   #15
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FYI - http://www.pbase.com/fstopjojo/sigma_2470
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Old Feb 21, 2005, 8:38 AM   #16
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I would say for outdoor landscape, you want a wide angle lens. You might want to go as wide as 10-15mm on the wide angle side (equivlaent to 20mm to 24mm in 35 mm parlance).

For indoor portrait, that 50mm prime will do you well. The 80mm might be tight in small rooms.

I wouldn't take my expensive camera anywhere near a boat or salt water. Consider a cheapodigital point and shootor use film disposables. The salt, sand and humidityis a camera killer.




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i don't think a 50mm prime would necessarily be needed if you have good zooms to cover your ranges.. but for less than100 dollars, you may consider picking one up.. with the 1.6 conversion factor of today's digital cameras giving you an 80mm at 1.8 for less than 100 dollars makes them an absolute steal for indoor portraits...

or you could save up and buy a sigma 105mm f2.8 macro =)

p.s. if you decide on getting a 50 1.8.. try ebay and search for a seriesI vs the new 50 1.8 series II... i prefer the build quality of the older lens..
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Old Feb 21, 2005, 4:31 PM   #18
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personally I would go with a
EF-S 17-85 IS USM and the 70-200/4L USM. That should be around a grand and then you can get some primes etc.
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350D has the same chip as 20D


No, it doesn't. It has a chip that's nearly the same size, but cheaper to produce in the quantities they're planning to make. We won't know until the reviews come out whether the noise at higher ISOs is acceptable.
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350D has the same chip as 20D


No, it doesn't. It has a chip that's nearly the same size, but cheaper to produce in the quantities they're planning to make. We won't know until the reviews come out whether the noise at higher ISOs is acceptable.
I think he meant that it had the same D!gic II chip :G
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