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Old Aug 24, 2005, 11:20 AM   #11
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That looks like a good source for what I need mgipe. I'm without a car in San Francisco though... is it easy/cheap to get to San Jose by train from SF?
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Old Aug 24, 2005, 12:11 PM   #12
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I have to agree with Jonathan with respect to the 10-22. Ok its not too bad if you want to go as wide as possible',but I never thought it anything special. Certainly not sharper or a better lens than the 17-85. While the 10-22 was acceptable I have been much more impressed by the 17-85. This is consistent with a number of these lenses I have had a try at or indeed from others I also know who own them.




darn... i was all set on getting one of these too (10-22)as i need something superwide for my 20d.. (and getting a 5d and a 17-40/16-35 is not an option $$)

LBoy, you and jonathon's comments go against all the tests and user reviews and comments i have... they all give the 10-22 higher optical ratings, and i saw a blind image test where the 10-22 blew the 17-85 away.. and i have also read that the 10-22 is the only non-L to use the Fluorite and something else i can't remember at the moment..

now i am going to have to rethink this.. bah.. decisions, decision.. i guess if they were easy, there would be no need for these threads..


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All I can say is try before you buy with this one. You might get lucky... on fredmiranda.com some people say its really sharp!Just wasn't with my copy... shame, with the 17-85 it gave me a great range In the end I just didn't think it was worth £500 for the images I was getting. Is there an 8mm option for the 20d or did I dream that?
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All I can say is try before you buy with this one. You might get lucky... on fredmiranda.com some people say its really sharp!Just wasn't with my copy... shame, with the 17-85 it gave me a great range In the end I just didn't think it was worth £500 for the images I was getting. Is there an 8mm option for the 20d or did I dream that?

that is where i have read the posts and threads touting the 10-22's optical greatness, and usually get pretty good info there too.. i know there are other superwide options, tokina, tamron and sigma.. but none of them cover the range from 10-22.. the sigma and tokina 12-24's aren't quite wide enough (only 19 on my 20d), the tamron only goes from 11-18 and the sigma 10-20 seems to be a little softer than the rest at the corners...

there are a few 8mm fisheyes available.. sigma makes one and there is a russion company called pelang or something like that as well.. not sure if fisheye is what you were looking for though..
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Old Aug 24, 2005, 1:27 PM   #15
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.. i know there are other superwide options, tokina, tamron and sigma.. but none of them cover the range from 10-22.. the sigma and tokina 12-24's aren't quite wide enough (only 19 on my 20d)
The full-frame Sigma 12-24 is really a 12mm on a FF - You can't really go 12mm on a FF with a 10-22 (16 equivalent only)... Things to keep in mind too going forward (especially with its outstanding MTF!)
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yea yea.. i know :-)

though i am wondering if a FF camera is ever in my future (er budget, same thing)..therefore if i could get something at 10mm (16mm), that would be preferrable to 12mm on my aps-c sensor.. that 2mm which equates to 3mm is quite signficant..
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Yea thats what I was thinking until I got a nice look at the 5D :-)

But if I ever go that route the 20D will stay as a backup, and I'll keep my 10-20 on that.
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3300USD is still just a bit (and by bit i mean alot) high for me.. being in grad school for the next 5-6 years has my outlook on obtaining one looking quite bleak to say the least..
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Look at where the road is leading.....

There will be a full frame digital from Canon for the same price as the 20D within the next 2-3 years if not sooner.

Sorry still doesn't resolve your wide end problem till that time. Why not try out the 10-22 in your local store. Take some shots and see what you think. Better still maybe you can get a 24/48 hour return agreement with them before to buy.
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Look at where the road is leading.....

There will be a full frame digital from Canon for the same price as the 20D within the next 2-3 years if not sooner.

Sorry still doesn't resolve your wide end problem till that time. Why not try out the 10-22 in your local store. Take some shots and see what you think. Better still maybe you can get a 24/48 hour return agreement with them before to buy.

i do hope the road does lead there.. it would be nice to have both a 1.6x and a FF body. leave the tele on the 1.6 and put a wide angle on the FF and have a killer combo..

but alas, as you say, that doesn't help now.. i have a friend with a 10-22, i am going to see if i can borrow for a week or so and get some good images to look at.. then i will make my decision.. can't really buy until october 1st anyways..
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