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Old Nov 7, 2005, 4:40 AM   #1
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Im fairly new to photography and my current set up is.

Canon - 350d
Canon - 18-55 kit lense
Sigma - 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 Aspherical Macro



the subject at which i will be photograpghing is live bands, mainly metal bands so u got the whole movin around and lot hair swingin kinda thing going on.
+ low light means its hard to get a decent shot that isnt blurred or too dark

I dont need to have a zoom or anythin really on it.

my first choice was canon 50mm 1.8
figure the 1.8 would allow more light and then i can increase the shutter speed and reduce the blur.

Any other recommendations for me? like i say getting close to the band isnt a problem. My problem lies with it being too dark and blurry

any suggesttions greatly appreciated.

the budget is going to b set around...180 mark. altho as cheap as possbile

thanks - mike




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Old Nov 7, 2005, 12:29 PM   #2
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180 marks? german currency? or are you saying mark in the other way?

I don't think there are any alternatives with that price range... german mark or not...

th only other thing i can think of is getting a flash instead...

i have the sigma 30 1.4 and i'm really glad for it because of indoor parties... but the use of surrounding light can sometimes work against you because contrast goes down.... in some situations, i preferred to used a flash just to get the right colours and large dof for group shots...
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 12:35 PM   #3
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sorry

£180 GBP

I dont like using flash as i feel that it removes the atmosphere...plus i dont know how to use it properly :G

sigma 30mm 1.4 u recon then?

i shall look into the lense now



any more ideas of suggestions people ?
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 5:05 PM   #4
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well, in your case, i'd go for something a little bit on the tele end... i just didn't want to find myself backing up a lot when composing shots... i'm not sure about the prices in europe, but i'll suggest either the canon 50 (1.4 or 1.8) or 85 f/1.8 ... if it was me, i'd probably go for the 85 unless if you want to primarily take group shots... then maybe the 50mm is better...

i dont know flash, either... the only thing i DO know is if i turn it on indoors, set the ap to 8, shutter to 200 and iso 400, i get a pretty good exposed shot. i leave those features in the manual mode and then use av mode for my usual f/1.4-1.8 iso 800-1600 combo.

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Old Nov 7, 2005, 5:52 PM   #5
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You need to consider the size of venue you're going to.
If it's a small venue even 50mm might be hard to get groupshots with, but in a bigger venue the 85 might be very nice.

I have the 50mm and I've taken a lot of good concert shots with it. Currently I'm looking to replace it for something with a bit of zoom.

But the 50mm is really cheap, so no reason not to get it
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 7:31 PM   #6
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the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is a great lens, but Sigma also makes a 28mm f/1.8, it is a digital only lens like the 30mm but sells for about $200 US cheaper than the 30mm. and the Sigma 24mm f/1.8 is about $100 cheaper than the 30mm.
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Might be better to learn how to use a flash, cos in these situations even with a large aperture its gonna be hit or miss. It depends on how well lit the stage is going to be. But the extreme movements these guys make is going to leave you floundering even on high iso.You could set the camera to drive and take what lucky ones come along when the camera catches your subjects still. But that nota great method in my opinion.

Its hard to make lens suggestions in this situation and budget. Flash used properly will not produce necessarily an unnatural result.
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fancy teaching me how to use flash then

Im desperate to learn as the flash will greatly help me.

Ill post 2 pictures ive took with flash and without in the same place.

then you can c what i mean about not liking to use flash.
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Wish I had time too buddy, unfortunatly.... mmm :blah:

There are plenty plenty sources of well laid out information on this subject on the net. Plus itsa fairly detailedsubject .... so get reading. Really thats the best bet, or get down to your nearest book store or library.

I was talking about speedlite flash, not the little dinky flash you might have living on your camera. That wont do the job.

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sound, well i shall look into buying a speed light flash.

any suggestions :blah:

ill pop out n get some books meh books
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