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Old Dec 9, 2005, 7:58 PM   #1
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I originally posted this in the canon camera forum but i'm moving it here because it probably belongs here!

Hey everyone,

I'm excited because the auto show is coming and I really want to take some awesome pics! I have a digital rebel XT w/ kit lens and a sigma 70-300mm apo dg macro. I don't think I'll be using the sigma at all this day since i'll be close to the cars (except maybe the really expensive ones :blah but I was wondering if I should pick up another lens to ensure I get the best quality pics!

I've read a few suggestions on this board and it seemed like the perfect complement to my arsenal (if you can call it that!) would be a canon 50mm f/1.8 (I guess II version?)

I assume this would give me better quality pics than using the kit lens at 50mm and I'll also be able to easily position myself since the cars won't move!:|

Let me know what you guys think. If there is a better lens for me of this type be it sigma or whatever else, let me know

Thanks!

Edit:
Just an update -

I've done some research and it looks like the 1.4 isn't any good for me even if I did splurge because I doubt I'd make use of it AND I don't want CA.

Another lens I found was a sigma but it's f/2.8 so it's not as fast as the canon 1.8.

The best price I can find in Canada is CDN$120+tax from Henrys, or I could try hitcamera.ca (local to me) and pick it up for 95$ CDN (but they seem shady).

IF you guys have any suggestions at all for the auto show please let me know! I also think this lens would double as a great tool around Christmas time! Also, after reading more and more reviews, from this site even.. it looks like this lens might have problems and be really cheaply built.. does that really make it worth it?

Also, if 50mm is too zoomed in - maybe a lower number like 35mm would be good? any opinions welcome!

Edit2:
After reading more and more.. I'm worried that this lens is going to break too easily for me (I'm unlucky and bad stuff always happens) so I was wondering if I could possibly get something better for a bit more $ (not the 1.4 though). Thanks!


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Old Dec 9, 2005, 11:03 PM   #2
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I think your definitely going to need something wider than 50mm.

I have a Tamron 17-35 F2.8 which would work well.

Car shows can be low light in some situations, so you want a fast lens (ie. F2.8).

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Old Dec 10, 2005, 12:23 AM   #3
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I've been testing my kit lens at 50mm and it seems like it might be too zoomed for certain cars but might work pretty well for some other ones.

The whole basis for my purchase was to get me something that will work really well in low light - and save as muhc as possible in the process! Since I already have the kit lens I'd feel like I'm overlapping somewhat but maybe a prime would be sort of an exception?

So, it seems as though that Tamron is way out of my range (I'm a student). Would you have another recommendation other than the canon 50mm f/1.8? I would also use it for pictures around Christmas time without flash but it might be too zoomed for that too.

Would it be more beneficial for me to get a zoom over a prime? I just feel like getting a zoom will double what my kit lens does.


EDIT: Well, this might seem crazy, but how would this do im comparison to the canon offering of 50mm/1.8?

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon AF



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I think your definitely going to need something wider than 50mm.

I have a Tamron 17-35 F2.8 which would work well.

Car shows can be low light in some situations, so you want a fast lens (ie. F2.8).

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Old Dec 10, 2005, 2:15 AM   #4
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Around here the tamron 17-35 costs the same as the sigma 30... Even if you did have a student card for henry's and get 10% off sigma lenses you're not saving a lot.

I have the sigma 30 and usually it's really fun to use. But when my back's against a wall and i still want to "zoom out", that's when I wish I had a wider focal length.

I can't really make any suggestiong because i haven't been at a car show... but if you know your focal length will change over time (sometimes you're close to a car, sometimes you aren't) and if there are a lot of people (which I assume there are--- which could mean you will not have a lot of freedom to properly compose your shots with primes), then shouldn't you stick to zooms?

something like the sigma 24-70? 24-60? 20-40? 17-35? I'm just mentioning sigma lenses because i'm guessing you have the discount card for henrys. Anyway, some kind of fast general zoom....
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I used my Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 at a recent car show and was very pleased. It was wide enough to get in close and still get everything in most of the time. The biggest problem you have at car shows is getting a clear shot without someone walking in front of you just as you press the shutter release. I've tried to attach one of my shots, but have not had to much practice attaching files in this forum.
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Old Dec 10, 2005, 7:30 AM   #6
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Nice shot off that Sigma.

For some reason I thought the car show was going to be indoors like this (taken with a pentax opio, sruggling with a max wide angle of about 38mm at F2.8:


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I don't have any discount at Henrys, I just arbitrarily picked that sigma lens.

The car show I'm going to will be indoors.

When I start looking at the tamron 17-35, the price is $700 CDN (or $500 USD from BH since the rebate does not apply to me).

If I decide to seriously look at this price range (It would be a long process!) I'm wondering about the Canon 17-85 IS USM? That lens seems to have far more practicality than only having a 17-35, and of course it would have IS. But maybe it's not as good overall? I'm just thinking if I get the 17-85.. then I don't need my kit lens really - whereas if I get the 17-35 I would still need it. The price difference would be minimal as well.

But I don't know how good the pic quality is on the 17-85 vs the tamron 17-35.

Anyone have any opinions on this?

Edit: Nice pics of the cars! I wish I could walk around an auto show without other people being there!
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For an auto show like the North American International Auto Show (for example) I find the most useful range to be the 17-85. The down side is speed. A faster lens with less zoon would be the Sigma18-50 f/2.8. The 24-70 f/2.8 works well, although I found it to be lacking a little too much for an auto show.

Most of the time, you're going to have to get closer to the cars, not further away, because of all the people that would be in the shot. Your best bet is the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8, because you can always crop to get closer, but you'll be limited by how far you can back up. I found that out the hard way.
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Well,

I've been thinking about this even more and I think I've decided on a new choice. What do you guys think of this plan?

Canon 17-40mm f/4 L and in the future a 50mmf/1.8

I would essentially use these 2 to replace my kit lens.

17-40mm F/4L
50m f/1,8
70-300mm sigma apo dg macro

I saw some pretty mixed reviews on the 17-35 tamron but then again I've also seen some on the canon L. I think that the benefit of the extra 5mm will be really useful for zooming in because 35mm is sorta short. But the tamron is also faster than the canon L.

If anyone thinks this would be a bad choice now would be the time to let me know! I guess the tamron is also significantly cheaper than the canon L (though not from local stores in Canada)
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I suppose the only complaint about the Tamron 17-35 could be the limited zoom range.

The Tamron 17-35 is the main lens that spends 90 percent of the time on my 20D.

I'm not sure 5mm is going to make much difference, but the difference between F2.8 and F4 as a max aperture is pretty significant, specially for indoor shots.

Also, the Canon 17-40is $200 US dollarsmore expensive.

Hard to say if the Canon lens will be significantly better or sharper than the Tamron.

The Canon might have better resale value than the Tamron.

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