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Old Jan 2, 2006, 1:47 AM   #11
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Like I say, once doesn't need a tripod collar for 70-200 f4 lens. It is very light. You defnitely need tripod colalr for 70-200f 2.8 (canon or sigma doesn't matter as f2.8 lens is heavy).

BTW - The tripod collar from my 400 f5.6can be used on 70-200 f4 if needed and it also doesn't require removing the lens from the camera.

For 100-400, I rarely need tripod as I shoot hand held all the time, thanks to IS (IS off for birds in fightshots though)
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Old Jan 3, 2006, 9:46 AM   #12
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... For 100-400, I rarely need tripod as I shoot hand held all the time, thanks to IS (IS off for birds in fightshots though)
Are you telling us you can shoot with the 100-400L, which is heavier (and the weight shift to the front) @ 3lb, handheld and the lighter more compact (with internal zooming) Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX requires a tripod??? :lol: :-) :G
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Old Jan 4, 2006, 12:37 AM   #13
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edshrop,

Which L lenses did you buy? post some pictures!

NHL is right, taking the tripod collar off is a pain. You need to remove the lens. I typically leave it on my 70-200 F2.8. The trip colar I can use as a grip when I hand-held it. doesn't bother me.

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Old Jan 4, 2006, 8:28 AM   #14
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... For 100-400, I rarely need tripod as I shoot hand held all the time, thanks to IS (IS off for birds in fightshots though)
Are you telling us you can shoot with the 100-400L, which is heavier (and the weight shift to the front) @ 3lb, handheld and the lighter more compact (with internal zooming) Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX requires a tripod??? :lol: :-) :G
NHL - I was saying canon 70-200 f4 doesn't need the tripod collar as it is quite light. Sigma needs a tripod collar, not tripod, as it is heavy. You don't want 70-200 f2.8 lens hanging on the front with camera supported on camera's tripod mount.

Also, I can shoot canon 100-400 hh at 1/125sec. when shooting at 400mm on my 10D. When using my canon 400mm f5.6 prime, I need to use tripod as I can't get sharp shots hh at anything less than say 1/800sec.

So yes, shooting 100-400 hh is no problem for me asit has IS and Sigma doesn't.
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Shooting the 100-400L @ 1/125 with f/5.6 has the same EV as shooting the 70-200 f/2.8 @ 1/250 with f/4 -> no tripod required (on the lens or the body)!

If needed you can still go to f/2.8 and be @ 1/500s (and have a better bokeh to boot)
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Thanks for your interest, I decided to get the Canon 24-70 f2.8 and the Canon 70-200 f4. I have wanted the 24-70 for a long time and did not think I would ever have the money for the lens.

I bought the 70-200 f4 over the Sigma, because of cost and weight. The build on the Sigma is very nice, but it just seemed very heavy and did not fit well in my bag. The Canon seems to fit better for me.

I have not shot any images yet that I really want to post. I hope to have a chance to do some shooting this weekend. I was really planning on doing more last weekend but the weather turned bad.

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Hi edshrop!

I have the Canon 24-70 as well. It is my most often used lens. You'll love it! Here's a picture I took with it, totally by accident. I was trying to take a picture of the flower when the bee just decided to land on it.

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