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Old Jan 10, 2006, 8:35 PM   #21
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While we are contemplateing onwhich lens to get I would like to share my latest moon shot with you guys from my 100-300 f/4 Sigma.

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Old Jan 10, 2006, 8:55 PM   #22
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And NHL's right...the Sigma 12-24mm is the only full frame compatible lens in this range. According to the EXIF on the Ceasar's Palace shots, the shutter was open for 3 seconds...unless NHL's a robot, I don't think it was a hand-held shot. :blah:
You're right of course! :-)

This image was hanheld however and pretty much wide open (@ f/6.7) shot from my 8th floor room in the Ceasar's Palace Tower (building on left) looking down to the Roman pools:

BTW - the HSM is for the full-time manual overide feature in my case... (beside the Full-Frame)


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Old Jan 11, 2006, 2:04 PM   #23
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I'm also looking for a wide lens for the 300D.Which one is the better lens the Sigma 12-24 or the 10-20 ?
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Old Jan 11, 2006, 2:10 PM   #24
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neither.. the tokina 12-24
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Old Jan 11, 2006, 2:12 PM   #25
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ok, fine, between the 2 sigmas..

the 12-24 handles distortion much better as the 10-20 suffers from very odd wavy mustache type distortion that is not flattering to pics with any kind of horizontal lines..

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Old Jan 11, 2006, 2:23 PM   #26
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thanks the Tokina looks really good and its f4 Constant.There is also the Canon 10-22 (realy had my heart set on 10mm).Here the Canon is about £400 the Tokina about 280-290 I'll probably go for the Tokina.

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Old Jan 11, 2006, 2:56 PM   #27
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The Sigma 10-20mm lens is very good. The three images that I have attached on the beginning of this thread are all from that lens. It is not as expensive as the Sigma 12-24mm, gives you the ability to have a 10mm, as complared to 12mm, and takes very nice images.

In my opinion, the constant F4 on the Tokina is errvelant. I use this lens for landscapes, so I will have around F8 or F10. Just about every lens that I have used is best when stopped down some. If I need a lense for low light work, I will go to my F2.8 lens.

Distortion can be controlled at 10mm, as long as you hold the camera level. This is true with any wide angle lens. If you read the leastest Shutterbug issue (Feb '06) they compare the Sigma 10-20, Tokina 12-24 and the Tarmon 11-18. By my understanding the Sigma and Tokina were even, with good point and bad for both. They can be bought for about the same price. Another advantage to the Sigma 10-20mm is that it is really small when compared to others in this range.

It really comes down to if you want a 10mmor a 12mm lens at the widest point. Both of these are made for APC sensor cameras, and will vingette on full frame cameras.

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Old Jan 11, 2006, 6:03 PM   #28
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Thanks for all the help guys. I just ordered the Tokina 12-24. I hope I get a good copy.

It all boiled down to this. I really do not have a need for HSM on this lens and it will be on auto focus 95% of the time so the nifty switch for auto to manualfocus isnt really needed. I have two Canon 20-D cameras, ones still in the box, so I wont be needing FF capabilities anytime soon. And by comparing all the photos here and other photo sharing sites the picture quality is to close to call. Not to mention the Tokina is $150.00 cheaper.

So thanks again.

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What is the procedure to determine whether or not you have a good copy? Just take a few shots and see how they turn out? What will a bad copy look like?
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